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Author Topic: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball  (Read 8712 times)

Weaver

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G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« on: August 24, 2016, 04:59:46 PM »

Where are we (correction, "ye") with G.Fast? Is there any timescale or best guess estimate for when it might start to become more real?
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2016, 05:01:38 PM »

Sometime between now and the year 2099 I would think.
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2016, 05:48:52 PM »

I think the aim for the pilot is at the around the start of 2017.

I don't think we'll hear any fuller plans right now, because everything has been conditional on appropriate regulation from Ofcom. Until the ink is dry on the agreements on the future of Openreach, nothing will be confirmed.
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2016, 11:16:45 AM »

I wonder when they will roll out G.fast modems?

This recent HH6, I'm thinking that isn't G.fast compatable?

We'll need to get one of the G.fast modems so we can get the stats working. That will be the only downside initially. Unless BT / OR decide to give us the ability to monitor stats better.
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2016, 12:21:19 PM »

what are the possibilities for G.Fast modems currently?
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2016, 03:29:40 PM »

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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2016, 05:32:43 PM »

I'll just add the comment that all current xDSL circuits operate in frequency division duplex mode whereas G.Fast circuits will operate in time division duplex mode.
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2016, 03:11:48 PM »

I was interested in G.fast, now not so much. They are rolling it out from the cabinet, no reduction in copper to the user and therefore no reduction in the faults/issues copper throws up - had long term issues with a previous line, a bad experience that remains with me. There must also be a price premium, another sticking point. Unless the cost of G.fast is very close  to VDSL I'm probably not going to bother.  :-\
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2016, 08:42:22 PM »

If 700 m from the cab with 50 Mbps, what should one expect on G.Fast?
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2016, 08:53:48 PM »

AT 700m nothing I'm afraid, I'm doubtful at around 450/500 meters with my bad line, although here suggests speeds of 100Mbps. G.Fast falls off even quicker than VDSL due to the higher frequencies used.
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2016, 09:43:47 PM »

1000 meters from cabinet so g.fast will not change anything at my end unless a node is installed at the top of the DP or an all in one cabinet is installed 500 meters closer to my premises but sometimes pigs do fly on openreach  :-\
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2016, 10:24:21 PM »

at 700m you wont even be able to sign up for g.fast.
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2016, 10:37:45 PM »

AT 700m nothing I'm afraid, I'm doubtful at around 450/500 meters with my bad line, although here suggests speeds of 100Mbps. G.Fast falls off even quicker than VDSL due to the higher frequencies used.
that's combined download/upload, so probably something like 80/20 depending on how much is allocated to the upload with G.Fast? You would probably be paying more for the same speed as someone getting max speeds on FTTC.

Does anyone know the speeds up/down OpenReach are likely to offer on G.Fast?
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2016, 11:07:04 PM »

So what's the point of a city-only technology that doesn't even work well for some urban dwellers because of distance restrictions?
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Re: G.Fast timetable / crystal ball
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2016, 11:22:14 PM »

Please correct me if I am wrong but I understand that G.Fast (in the U.K.) is still in the testing/trial phase.  :-\  Hence it is really quite pointless speculating upon what may or may not happen with one's own circuit . . .
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