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Author Topic: Should I be getting better download speeds?  (Read 4584 times)

starfire

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Should I be getting better download speeds?
« on: August 21, 2016, 04:47:52 PM »

Hi,

Been with plusnet for several years on 40/20 (now 55/10 I guess).

I can hit max. download of 32MBps but notice my line is synced faster - I've just changed to a Zyxel VMG8924-B10A from a previous Huawei HG612 / Netgear combo and it reports:

============================================================================
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
                G.Vector:   Disable
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   0 day: 4 hours: 2 minutes
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:      6.262 Mbps       43.084 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:      6.236 Mbps       43.085 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:        6.1 dB            6.4 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:      - 0.5 dBm          12.2 dBm
           Receive Power:      -18.7 dBm         -10.6 dBm
              Actual INP:        0.0 symbols      46.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:       18.2 dB           22.9 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:      6.236 Mbps       43.445 Mbps
============================================================================
      VDSL Band Status    U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  7.5    42.1     N/A     N/A    18.8    51.3    78.8   
Signal Attenuation(dB):  7.5    41.5     N/A     N/A    21.0    51.0     N/A   
        SNR Margin(dB):  6.3     6.1     N/A     N/A     6.5     6.4     N/A   
   Transmit Power(dBm):-11.3   - 0.9     N/A     N/A    10.3     7.8     N/A   
============================================================================

            VDSL Counters

           Downstream        Upstream
Since Link time = 2 min 51 sec
FEC:      49312      8
CRC:      0      7
ES:      0      5
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 18 sec
FEC:      0      0
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:      24      0
CRC:      0      1
ES:      0      1
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 1 day time = 4 hours 3 min 18 sec
FEC:      49312      8
CRC:      0      7
ES:      0      5
SES:      0      0
UAS:      27      27
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:      0      0
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Total time = 4 hours 3 min 18 sec
FEC:      49312      8
CRC:      0      7
ES:      0      5
SES:      0      0
UAS:      27      27
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0


Plusnet fault ticket GEA report, BT Wholesale speed test & checker results attached.



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NEXUS2345

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2016, 05:35:11 PM »

It would appear that your line is severely impacted. My suggestion would be to use DSLStats to upload data from the modem to MyDSLWebStats so that the people with more experience here can give greater insight. One thing that would be of help is if you could execute the command:
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xdslcmd info --pbParamsIn the BusyBox shell over telnet. To access the BusyBox shell in Telnet, simply execute 'sh'.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2016, 05:37:52 PM by NEXUS2345 »
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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2016, 05:40:46 PM »

Err, isn't the line rate right in the middle of the clean range?

It's the BT IP Profile that is limiting the speed test result. The IP Profile on FTTC is usually expected to be about 96% of the line rate / Actual Net Data Rate. I'm not sure exactly how long it's supposed to take for the IP Profile to update.
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starfire

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2016, 06:52:38 PM »

So maybe just wait and see if my profile speed increases?

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Ronski

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2016, 06:59:38 PM »

What's the following link say for your Plus Net speed profile? You'll need to login if not already.

https://portal.plus.net/my.html?action=data_transfer_speed
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starfire

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2016, 07:13:56 PM »

Estimated line speed 50, current 34.2

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starfire

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2016, 07:15:10 PM »

Estimated line speed:50Mb (This may vary between 35.5Mb and 50.5Mb) - Checked on 2016-08-02 11:30:43Current line speed:34.2 Mb

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GigabitEthernet

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2016, 07:20:15 PM »

Your Plusnet speed profile should catch up shortly and you should get around 40Mbps downloads speeds then.
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Ronski

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2016, 07:32:07 PM »

I think it may be worthwhile if you turn off your modem for at least 35 minutes (hopefully stops it upsetting the DLM), hopefully the correct line speed will register with both BT's systems (the speedtest shows a max of 34.46 Mbps) and Plusnet.

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starfire

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 08:45:49 AM »

Thanks for all the assistance.

I think I will just leave everything alone for a few days and hopefully the IP Profile will increase, will let you know.

No change as of yet, here is the current status:

============================================================================
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
                G.Vector:   Disable
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   0 day: 20 hours: 22 minutes
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:      6.262 Mbps       43.084 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:      6.236 Mbps       43.085 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:        5.9 dB            6.5 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:      - 0.5 dBm          12.2 dBm
           Receive Power:      -18.7 dBm         -10.6 dBm
              Actual INP:        0.0 symbols      46.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:       18.2 dB           22.9 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:      6.236 Mbps       44.351 Mbps
============================================================================
      VDSL Band Status    U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  7.5    42.1     N/A     N/A    18.8    51.3    78.8   
Signal Attenuation(dB):  7.5    41.6     N/A     N/A    21.0    51.0     N/A   
        SNR Margin(dB):  5.5     5.9     N/A     N/A     6.5     6.6     N/A   
   Transmit Power(dBm):-11.3   - 0.9     N/A     N/A    10.3     7.8     N/A   
============================================================================

            VDSL Counters

           Downstream        Upstream
Since Link time = 22 min 23 sec
FEC:      69044      62
CRC:      0      31
ES:      0      23
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 15 minutes time = 7 min 51 sec
FEC:      27      0
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:      43      0
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 1 day time = 20 hours 22 min 51 sec
FEC:      69044      62
CRC:      0      31
ES:      0      23
SES:      0      0
UAS:      27      27
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:      0      0
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Total time = 20 hours 22 min 51 sec
FEC:      69044      62
CRC:      0      31
ES:      0      23
SES:      0      0
UAS:      27      27
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
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Ronski

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2016, 10:17:53 AM »

I might be wrong but I think that the IP profile is only updated at time of resync, and sometimes the resync can happen to quickly to be csptured
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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2016, 04:17:51 PM »

As far as I'm aware, the IP Profile (in BT) only gets updated when there is a resync. However, that number might get shuffled on to other places whenever there is a PPP session initiated.

IIRC, Plusnet's copy of the IP profile (visible as "current line speed") is updated sometime after the BT number gets updated ... but that happens several times a day.

If the BT IP Profile isn't correct (in the BTW speed tester), and doesn't change within a day, then I'd be tempted to do the 35-minute shutdown that @Ronski suggested. If that doesn't work, then (I suspect) that @b*cat would suggest leaving the line turned off overnight instead (to relax). If the IP profile (in the BTW speed tester) isn't changing, then you need to report that to Plusnet as a form of stuck IP profile.

This doesn't look like a fault with the line, or anything that an Openreach engineer can affect. It doesn't appear to be worth involving an Openreach appointment.
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starfire

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2016, 09:51:28 AM »

Well, my IP Profile has increased but not my Plusnet one or my download speeds...

Estimated line speed:
50Mb (This may vary between 35.5Mb and 50.5Mb) - Checked on 2016-08-02 11:30:43
Current line speed:
34.2 Mb

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2016, 11:13:21 AM »

Great. Any idea what caused the update?

If the plusnet version hasn't improved within the next 12 hours or so, it'll be worth calling them, or posting on their forum. Mentioning a "stuck profile", and that your current line speed hasn't updated ought to be enough to get them to update it.
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starfire

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Re: Should I be getting better download speeds?
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2016, 11:19:42 AM »

No, unsure what caused the update.

I must say this Zyxel VMG8924 doesn't seem the most reliable, it just totally crashed this morning, couldn't ping it at all, all broadband stopped etc. Eventually it rebooted itself and started working again although cannot see anything as to why it crashed - I've just configured syslog on it maybe that will show something if it happens again.

Also confusing what is the most recent FW, their site says AAKL.7 but a support tocket says AAKL.14.


I wasn't sure how long Plusnet current line speed takes to update so will give it a 12hrs + as you say.
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