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[Weaver]

If you completely do without a PSTN / POTS phone and get rid of your microfilter or faceplate-type filter and lose all extension wiring, and you think there's a chance it will improve your DSL performance or reliability?

[NewtronStar]

The voice side uses the low frequencies 300Hz to 3.4Khz the start of the broadband frequency starts looking at my VDSL circuit is 30Khz so you can see there is a large gap from 3.4Khz to 30Khz so no way would getting rid of the phone/voice help your DSL speed.

That micro filter or SSFP is only there to separate the voice frequencies and the broadband frequencies

[underzone]

Just try it. It is easy enough to reconnect the extensions and NTE etc again. I found it to be very worthwhile.

[Weaver]

I certainly thought it was worthwhile in reliability terms. (Before I went to three lines bonded together.) My phone was to blame though, it used to keep disturbing the lines when it went off-hook, until I double-microfiltered it. So the removal of the phone was a factor there, and that additional factor mucked up my results. I had no extension wiring to lose.

I just wanted a sanity check, to see if other people had seen the same kind of results. Presumably having a very long line could possibly magnify the relative size of any effect.

Before I got rid of filters altogether, I found that the BT "Pressac" faceplate filter was the best for an extremely long line. Tried ADSL Nation ones too, active components, complicated design.

[underzone]

As most people have mobiles these days attached to their bodies, no-one I know rings landlines other than to check that someone is at home before visiting. If you have a good mobile signal at home I would ditch the voice & telephony from your landline and let it just do data.

[NewtronStar]

no-one I know rings landlines

I do with free all calls to UK landlines and International calls 24/7 as long as you end the call before 1 hour has lapsed, doing this on a mobile phone would cost £40+ per month

[Chrysalis]

it does if you have a HR fault, otherwise it should have no impact.

[underzone]

It is the removal of the extension wiring & filters that makes the biggest difference.

[sevenlayermuddle]

I'd be surprised if it made any significant difference.  If it did make a difference, I'd be looking for whether there was a fault somewhere.  Not an HR fault mind, that would create different symptoms.

I'd also be curious, following the train of thought of HR faults, whether a typical line might be more inclined to developed such faults after long term (months/years) absence of any significant current flow?

Biggest thing for me would be, I couldn't do without a landline.   I regard my mobile number as a very private and personal thing, and share it with very few others.   Even those who know it, unless they knew of some special circumstances/agreements such as we were about to meet, would never use it.   And likewise, I would not use theirs.

[Weaver]

I still have the equivalent of my landline number, I went to VoIP instead. I haven't got round to testing it properly yet, due to illness. I must get onto it some time. It needs testing under full traffic load in one or even both directions.

[sevenlayermuddle]

I still have the equivalent of my landline number, I went to VoIP instead.

Fair point, VoIP vs POTS is a different debate to mobile vs POTS, I retract that aspect of my comments.

[Cliff_G]

If you have a good mobile signal at home....

 

Yes, I do, but only via the broadband (Vodafone Suresignal) which as I only get about 3 Mbps drops out as soon as anyone tries to use the interweb.

Other than that, I'd love 1G, never mind 3 or 4G