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[burakkucat]

Does G.Fast work with Billion's?

No.    New CPE will be required. 

The four current types of xDSL service (G.992.1, G.992,3, G.992.5 & G.993.2) operate using frequency division duplex but G.9700/G.9701 (a.k.a. G.Fast) operates using time division duplex.

[William Grimsley]

Oh, yes, I remember now, I wonder if the new router will have an unlocked telnet interface? I suppose there won't be any point trying to monitor line statistics on G.Fast anyway.

[burakkucat]

. . . I suppose there won't be any point trying to monitor line statistics on G.Fast anyway.

Of course there would! How else would the EU know how well her/his circuit was operating?

If someone like Asbokid or HowlingWolf would be able to modify the firmware image to allow access to the modem's operating system, then I would be willing to write some proof of concept code and give it to someone like Bald_Eagle1 to use as the basis of a G.9700/G.9701 circuit monitoring utility. 

[NewtronStar]

The Billion and other modem/routers will only work as a router in bridge mode with a G.FAST modem now at the moment we have got 3-7 years before Billion can supply us with an all in one G.FAST modem/router.

You know what I just don't have a clue when where and what with G.FAST it could even be discontinued before the trials finish as another products look better much better than G.FAST

And Fur Feck sake they messed up G.INP on both Huawei & ECI cabs how will they mess up G.FAST only time will tell 

[Chrysalis]

Newt leave alone unless the line becomes unstable due to the lower snrm.

The possibility if you resync is a loss of US speed as the lower SNR may be long lasting.

[NewtronStar]

Indeed my days of powering down the modem for 30 minutes are over have done all that I can on the internal side of the circuit and got the Billion 8800NL modem/router which have always wanted even though it was 2 months old at £32 it's my best Ebay purchase ever

[William Grimsley]

Of course there would! How else would the EU know how well her/his circuit was operating?

But, surely if it was G.Fast, there's no copper involved so it's unlikely to show any real differences in statistics unlike ADSL/VDSL.

[roseway]

You were talking about G.Fast, not FTTP.

[William Grimsley]

It's really the same sort of thing, but the post has been edited.

[roseway]

It's not that same at all. With G.Fast, the cable entering the user's premises is copper, and subject to the same degradations as FTTC.

[William Grimsley]

I knew that.

But, most people that will have G.Fast will most likely only have the copper coming from their DP, not all the way from the cabinet so distance will have decreased a huge amount. Is monitoring 20 meters of copper worth it? Just wondering what your opinion is.

[Dray]

The G.Fast pod will be on the cabinet

[William Grimsley]

Oh, I do apologise I keep thinking about FTTRN! Yes that would make sense then.

[kitz]

FTTrN could still have a fair run of copper[/url].   
I should imagine that whilst copper is still involved and also used for telephony then there would be some who would still like to monitor.
Just like ADSL/VDSL, FTTrN will not be immune from EMI/REIN.
 

[William Grimsley]

Apologies, just thought because distances may be very small, it's less likely for issues to go wrong?