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Author Topic: Advice on poor quality line  (Read 45594 times)

MaximusPrime

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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #105 on: June 26, 2016, 08:11:42 AM »

@burakkucat,

cheers for the info, I'm doubly screwed due to my distances.

Openreach should look to phase out ADSL to customers connected to Fiber cabinets - no need for power cut backs then.

Edit: Any Ideas why the other cracks in my Tone Graph occur?
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2016, 09:10:03 AM »

Impossible ask I'm afraid .............. ALL Cabs will have a hybrid of ADSL and VDSL, if a DSLAM has been provided. You'd be asking the EU to chose between having VDSL broadband, or nothing ?? I think a certain Cat on these forums would hiss and spit at that scenario.  ;) ;D
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #107 on: June 26, 2016, 09:17:52 AM »

@Black Sheep,

ADSL is the past, if OR want to get the best performance out of their infrastructure it would make sense

We used to all have dial up & it's been replaced for example
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #108 on: June 26, 2016, 11:10:53 AM »

Impossible ask I'm afraid .............. ALL Cabs will have a hybrid of ADSL and VDSL, if a DSLAM has been provided. You'd be asking the EU to chose between having VDSL broadband, or nothing ?? I think a certain Cat on these forums would hiss and spit at that scenario.  ;) ;D

While I agree with you...
That's what they are doing  out in Jersey
They are going for full FTTP and all the ADSL related equipment is being switched off and the users given two options
FTTP at a much greater price or nothing: sign on the dotted line by day x or your service will be cut off.

I do see though the UK moving to where the local cabs provides all the services whether that is ADSL, GPON/FTTP, VDSL or POTS and all the local exchanges closed down leaving just mega regional exchanges feeding thousands of local cabs.
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #109 on: June 26, 2016, 11:15:27 AM »

@Black Sheep,

ADSL is the past, if OR want to get the best performance out of their infrastructure it would make sense

We used to all have dial up & it's been replaced for example

Pipe-dream I'm afraid. You would have to opt for c6em's offerings in his post above ….. full FTTP. We ALL know this would be the best thing, but we ALL know it isn't going to happen in the next 20yrs.
So unfortunately, unless ADSL does get totally switched off …… which it won't ….. you will always have power cut-backs I'm afraid.
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #110 on: June 26, 2016, 12:51:14 PM »

Could be done by provisioning ADSL from the cabs rather than the exchange, but the LLU operators wouldn't like that.
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #111 on: June 26, 2016, 07:59:55 PM »

Jesus .......... there'd be no room on the streets for pedestrians because of street furniture !! Get real, this aint gonna happen .... ever.  :) :)
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #112 on: June 28, 2016, 01:45:54 PM »

Guys,

why are my tones disappearing?

E.g. the block of tones around the 650 mark have gone missing in the last 4 days
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #113 on: June 28, 2016, 04:53:43 PM »

I would not like to guess. Please remember to only consider the graphs once you have checked the current band plan for the "showtime" (medley) phase for you circuit.
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #114 on: June 28, 2016, 05:06:25 PM »

@burakkucat,

the DS Medley band is 33 to 667

I used to get 8.3Mb, I've been down to 6.3Mb for a couple of weeks now
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #115 on: June 28, 2016, 06:25:11 PM »

Hmm . . . Quite a number of sub-carriers (tones) have, therefore, been "knocked out". I really don't have any feeling as to what is happening with your circuit.
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #116 on: June 28, 2016, 06:27:40 PM »

@burakkucat,

it looks to me that the tones are being eroded probably due to the corrosion of the line under my house?
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #117 on: June 29, 2016, 01:33:10 PM »

Guys,

What causes a "Defect Indicator/DLM" noted in the MDWS emails?

Bad connection today
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #118 on: July 01, 2016, 02:51:51 PM »

Guys,

I have an OR Engineer coming on Tuesday. I've had a lot of drop outs the past few days due to rain.

In my opinion the line from the pole to my house needs replaced.

What's the best way to convince them because I need this fixed, it's been cutting out for half a year now

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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #119 on: July 01, 2016, 06:48:29 PM »

It's hard to tell a tradesman how to do their job, he/she will already know were to start looking if they find a fault on your line, all you could do is tell them the type of symptoms your having with your Broadband and that might help during the OR investigation.
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