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Author Topic: Advice on poor quality line  (Read 45286 times)

MaximusPrime

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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2016, 06:31:57 PM »

@burakkucat,

I noticed when I use my treadmill in my garage my SNR drops significantly. It's at the opposite side of the house from the telephone pole. There is an Electrical transformer besides my neighbour's house close to the pole too.

The line under my house is old & it probably has no EMI shielding on it either.

Do you think I should be getting higher speeds even though I am 2.8km from my cabinet? I'm more worried about the disconnections than speed
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2016, 06:47:55 PM »

Do you think I should be getting higher speeds even though I am 2.8km from my cabinet?

At that sort of distance you are really at the limit as to what a VDSL2 circuit can deliver.

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I'm more worried about the disconnections than speed.

I think that the disconnections should be treated as the priority . . . a stable but slow circuit is perfectly usable. Here follows the result of a typical speedtest at The Cattery --

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[Duo2 ~]$ speedtest_cli --simple
Ping: 69.239 ms
Download: 4.36 Mbit/s
Upload: 0.82 Mbit/s
[Duo2 ~]$

Slow, stable and, thus, perfectly usable.  ;)
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2016, 06:54:05 PM »

@burakkucat,

yeah absolutely, I can't go through another Winter with my broadband disconnecting for days at a time
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2016, 07:36:34 PM »

What does the BT availability estimate say for your line you can post the results and remove your telephone number by using this link www.dslchecker.bt.com
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2016, 07:40:29 PM »

@NewtronStar,

It says 7.3Mb max, but I usually get 8Mb, it used to say 9Mb
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2016, 08:02:35 PM »

After seeing that don't think i'll be moaning any time soon about my VDSL2 1km line, It's showing your line to be in Range A clean with no external or internal wiring issues.

But your line is much better than with ADSL2+ and ADSLMax, when was the last time your line disconnected ?
« Last Edit: June 14, 2016, 08:26:39 PM by NewtronStar »
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2016, 08:06:54 PM »

@NewtronStar,

disconnection during last night: 16hrs & 38mins ago
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2016, 08:18:58 PM »

@NewtronStar,

disconnection during last night: 16hrs & 38mins ago

Did your SNRm suddenly fall before your line was disconnected
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2016, 08:21:02 PM »

@NewtronStar,

I'm not sure, I didn't have stats running. I usually get disconnections during; cold weather, wet weather & night time though.

I'll keep my linux box running tonight to see what happens
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2016, 08:48:49 PM »

Yeap seeing your stats on MDWS that should give a better idea or clue into those disconnections.

Cold weather on the metallic pathway should contract the cable and the same during the night time as for wet/water if the A & B pairs are damaged exposing both the two metal wires to water then that acts like a short circuit.
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2016, 08:51:51 PM »

@NewtronStar,

I had a Senior Openreach Engineer out & he said the same thing about the underground line into my house.

Proving it's the problem is an issue though.

Was raining yesterday but it's been good weather today
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2016, 09:24:00 PM »

I would prefer the last 20 meters to the home to fead by a drop cable/wire much easier to fix than underground cable even though it is exposed to the wind rain heat and cold and radio frequency interference 24/7.

But if you don't have any as I to call them telegraph poles close to your premises it's going to cost someone.
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2016, 09:29:14 PM »

@NewtronStar,

there's a pole about 50 metres from my house. How much would it be to get an overhead cable installed to replace the underground cable?
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2016, 09:47:58 PM »

@NewtronStar,

there's a pole about 50 metres from my house. How much would it be to get an overhead cable installed to replace the underground cable?

50 meters sounds fine to me my telegraph pole with the dropwire is 43 meters to the house as for the OR cost for re-siting your current feed to a dropwire you will need to ask BlackSheep
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Re: Advice on poor quality line
« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2016, 10:17:33 PM »

Retrain Reason : 200000 200000 what the hell is this
« Last Edit: June 14, 2016, 10:20:39 PM by NewtronStar »
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