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Author Topic: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best  (Read 16587 times)

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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2016, 05:53:06 PM »

Quite true, well spotted and mea culpa.

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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2016, 06:14:14 PM »

Yeah... and I need a 'bangs heads together icon'!

Better yet..   lets all have one of these and keep it civil.  tyvm

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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2016, 06:16:46 PM »

Why not run the network  cable in as a data extension and then see what speed you get, if the drop is too much then it's an easy job to fit network sockets at each end and have the modem by the master socket.


Er hmm - sorry can you just explain that in a bit more detail please. Thanks

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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2016, 06:27:21 PM »

Why not run the network  cable in as a data extension and then see what speed you get, if the drop is too much then it's an easy job to fit network sockets at each end and have the modem by the master socket.


Er hmm - sorry can you just explain that in a bit more detail please. Thanks

He means use a Cat5/6 cable to extend the phoneline temporarily and see what happens to the sync speed. Thats a good idea if you have the cable/connectors to do it.
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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2016, 06:40:35 PM »

Why not run the network  cable in as a data extension and then see what speed you get, if the drop is too much then it's an easy job to fit network sockets at each end and have the modem by the master socket.


Er hmm - sorry can you just explain that in a bit more detail please. Thanks

He means use a Cat5/6 cable to extend the phoneline temporarily and see what happens to the sync speed. Thats a good idea if you have the cable/connectors to do it.


Ok this sounds interesting and worth a go perhaps. I have vdsl faceplate on top of the master socket which openreach fitted. I noticed the 2 terminals at the top left behind the lower face plate. Would it be these that I would need to join onto? Marked a and b
I also assume I would also need some sort of face plate faceplate on the end of the 30 metres so I can test it out. I am thinking try this first before actually fitting anything. Do I need to use particular colours or irrelevant provide the right colour goes on the right place.. bit of help here would be great. Thanks!

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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2016, 06:57:21 PM »

Connect to yellow arrowed connectors in the picture. Just use the blu-wh/blu  pair (any pair will do as long as it is a pair and not 2 odd wires). Just connect to a temporary RJ11 socket.
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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2016, 07:09:07 PM »

You could use an RJ45 socket because an RJ11 modem lead will plug into an RJ45 socket and then you could use the same socket if you decide to go for the network connection instead.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cat5e-Single-Socket-Ethernet-Network/dp/B000Q6LSDQ
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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2016, 09:22:33 PM »

Thanks everyone, really helpful  - plenty of options to think about.

Dray - sorry just one query as ever... if I opt for a cat6 kit which comes with a cat6 face plate what pins would I use on the faceplate to connect the cable as a test for the vdsl modem. I believe its 4&5 but not completely sure.

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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2016, 09:29:55 PM »

I think so..
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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2016, 09:34:35 PM »

Pins 4 & 5 of a socket that accepts an RJ45 plug would also map to pins 3 & 4 of an RJ11/RJ12 plug.

So if I have followed what you intend to try correctly, you would connect the two IDCs marked A & B from the SSFP to the pins 4 & 5 of the RJ45 socket by using one twisted pair from the CAT5e cable.
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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2016, 09:39:04 PM »

Pins 4 & 5 of a socket that accepts an RJ45 plug would also map to pins 3 & 4 of an RJ11/RJ12 plug.

So if I have followed what you intend to try correctly, you would connect the two IDCs marked A & B from the SSFP to the pins 4 & 5 of the RJ45 socket by using one twisted pair from the CAT5e cable.

Thanks - I am slowly getting it lol.. but just one thing I am going to use CAT6 and not cat 5 so assuming this makes no difference

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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2016, 09:44:35 PM »

CAT6 is over-specification for the current-day situation but its usage will "future-proof" that segment of your wiring.

CAT6 is also stiffer and thus physically more difficult to install than CAT5e.
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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2016, 09:45:07 PM »

But the wiring will be the same
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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2016, 09:58:49 PM »

But the wiring will be the same

Indeed it will.  :)
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Re: looking for some advice - problem with master socket - which option is best
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2016, 10:00:34 PM »

CAT6 is over-specification for the current-day situation but its usage will "future-proof" that segment of your wiring.

CAT6 is also stiffer and thus physically more difficult to install than CAT5e.

Yeap I know its a bit ott but it means if I have to go Ethernet to ethernet I will be getting gigabit at the router end.

Thanks again to all - will report back once I have had a chance to erm break stuff :lol:
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