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Author Topic: SATA Controler/driver needed  (Read 21833 times)

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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2008, 12:34:13 PM »

>> I tried that yesterday and it did not even recognise the serial number or model number.

lol I was hoping you would have more luck with that than me - I had to use the text search on Intel and then go through the whole list looking.  :lol:

>> Vista is now back up and running

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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2008, 12:49:05 PM »

>> Vista is now back up and running :clap:

 XP is also back up and running :clap:

But I can't get EasyBCD to find and configure them to dual boot properly. :no:
On startup if I chose the option to boot into XP a error warning says there is no NTLDR.

I can remove XP in EasyBCD and vista boots.
or
I can remove vista in EasyBCD and XP boots.

I am going to go for a XP re-install, at least that way I can fix the drive letters correct and then play around some more, at least that way if it works I will not have to still re-install and it might just fix the missing NTLDR.

(Unless you have any suggestions within the next 30 minute that is) time now 12:48am
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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2008, 01:52:43 PM »

A little late now but I might have tried using the Vista DVD to repair the MBR again and then tried EasyBCD again before dusting off the XP disc.
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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2008, 02:03:25 PM »

I did, but I can't get it to work this time.
It keeps saying the same thing when booting up, no matter what I try.
"NTLDR is missing", or it may just be corrupt.

"Possibly not too late though"
I'm "trying" to restore a Ghost image of XP that I first created using Norton Ghost v14, of which is absolutely crap (in my opinion) compared to earlier versions. (first and last time of using it.

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Too late!
Ghost messed it up (well I did really) I hadn't actually ghosted XP to start with so ended up over-writing XP with the recovery backup  :lol:
So back to square one, now with XP being installed on the "correct" partition E:
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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2008, 05:01:19 PM »

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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2008, 01:45:34 PM »

Thanks Kitz, the thought is appreciated.

But I actually managed to get that before buying the PC, it was helpful to see the specs but unfortunately it does not give much help in any other directions.

State of play to-date is not looking very good even after re-installing XP.
So I am going to start from scratch with  a factory restore followed by "another" XP install and see if that resolves the "missing NTLDR and NTdetect.com files/folders.

Needles to say after all this trouble and problems it's taken the shine away from having a nice new system.
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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2008, 02:25:55 PM »

Indeed the messing around with drivers is definitely the downside to Serial ATA.

Though saying that some do not need drivers as they appear to work just like an IDE controller. Typically it is SATA RAID controllers that want drivers or Windows set up won't find the drive or when it installs it will fail to boot.

Indeed these shiny new systems can sometimes be a bit of a pain, especially when you don't know exactly what the hardware is, which drivers are required and so on - particularly difficult if your trying to sort out someone elses non-booting PC.
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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2008, 02:49:58 PM »


Indeed the messing around with drivers is definitely the downside to Serial ATA.

Yes but that was easily resolved.
The problem is with getting the dual boot to work "properly"

With my other PC as you may recall a few weeks ago when you recommended EasyBCD, that solved the problem within 30 seconds.

But this time it's another story.
If I remember correctly,
On the first occasion the problem was installing the wrong LAN driver/Controller which messed-up the system.
On the second occasion it was just that the drive letters were slightly mixed up.
Now, after resolving the LAN and the drive letter problems, EasyBCD will not get the system to dual boot as it should and has done so on the previous two occasions.

But, we will get there eventually as it has been proved that it can be achieved on the past two occasions.

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And the now for the FINAL CHAPTER:
I did not go for a reinstall again as I figured there just had to be "something I was missing" and I don't like being beaten, that "something" being the "boot.ini file", whether it was corrupt or missing I'm not sure.

But, two things,
1. On my other system I converted to dual booting a couple of weeks ago (Vista installed after XP)
I had to use the XP "Repair Console" on that occasion also before it would boot properly, to repair the boot.ini file, (bootcfg /rebuild)
Which was before loading or using EasyBCD (so nothing to do with EasyBCD because it was only used on that occasion to set the boot and time order, unfortunately it's not now connected so I could not check those settings).

2. Part, Some, or a combination of problems "may of occurred" this time around because of restoring what may of been a faulty MBR after the first few attempts of getting it working.
So whatever I did after that was simply a waste of time.

Plus, Vista is located on my C: partition and XP is located on my E: partition (so what you may think that seems about right)
but no, when being setup in EasyBCD as such it would not work, it also turns out that both XP and Vista should be set to the same "drive C: letter in the settings.

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Thanks for all the help to everyone, as said in the past it is and was much appreciated.  :sleep:
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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2008, 12:49:02 AM »

Glad youre getting there OF.   Youre ahead of me now I think. 
I still have to install a pile of software....  and still waiting for my monitor to be RMA'd
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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2008, 01:02:59 AM »

>> Glad you're getting there OF.   
Thanks.

>> I still have to install a pile of software....
Yes but I now have twice as much too install. :lol:

There is one more thing I have to check-out or confirm.
And that is, a few articles I have come across saying that problems may be caused sometimes because of an "Image Restore" to one partition or the other.
I assume if correct, that this may be because of interfering with the MBR, but not sure yet and I don't want to try it just for the sake of it..

Any thoughts on that?
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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2008, 02:24:04 PM »

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There is one more thing I have to check-out or confirm.
And that is, a few articles I have come across saying that problems may be caused sometimes because of an "Image Restore" to one partition or the other.

This might refer to where the PC manufacturer sets up a recovery partition which is also bootable to allow easy restoration of the system OS just as if the system was factory shipped.

It is often booted to from the system boot menu rather than an OS boot menu.

If you have repartitioned the entire drive the chances are this has been deleted although it isn't really that important when you know what your doing with the Windows discs anyway.
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Re: SATA driver needed
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2008, 03:51:55 PM »

If you have repartitioned the entire drive the chances are this has been deleted...
I understand and agree with what your saying there.

But in this case I only recovered space from the C: drive to create another partition of which is now E:
(D: still being the manufacturers original recovery partition (for now at least) which is "automatically" accessed from a recovery boot disc, yes if this drive letter is re-assigned, the recovery will not work as it will not what drive/partition the recovery files are on)

I "think" what I was originally referring to, is that once a "single partition image file" is created, then any changes that may be made effecting the MBR or boot.ini file/s would mean with a restore, the system would get confused with any addition information regarding a second OS and therefore the boot option may not function properly.

However this is only conjecture at this point and I think with just installing normal programs it should not have any adverse effects.

Obviously a solution to this would be to always create a image of both/all partitions/drives as one single image backup job.
The downside to this is the time and space required to do so. (45minutes at a guess and requiring about 12GB of space)
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