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[burakkucat]

I will occasionally read the blog postings of Adrian Kennard and feel that some of his more recent postings deserve to be highlighted here --

Government still think there are "communication providers"
Draft Investigatory Powers Bill
Not a Licence to Kill, thank you Lord West of Spithead
Working with ISPs

He has also found the time to start a petition -- "Government to abandon all ideas of trying to ban strong encryption."

[loonylion]

signed the petition, hope they take note of it and his comments.

[AArdvark]

Will sign the petition as it makes sense.
Unfortunately, I believe this gov't will ignore all calls to revise their actions re: national security, as they see it.
This is about planting the seeds for future Bills & keeping our security services happy.
This is in line with previous tory govts actions to keep the police happy.
As the police are now not their greatest fans, they need to have some national security related org willing to do their bidding.
It is simple to put into action vague laws that are generic enough to cover other activities of our security services.
You do not believe that the collected information will NOT be accessed by said agencies when THEY want rather than according to the so called rules.
Covert action is their domain after all !!

[Chrysalis]

I took a break from his blog as for a while it was just about the man cave :p

will check those posts thanks.

[Weaver]

I've signed RevK's petition. Can now only pray that someone with some common sense and some clout takes some notice.

[GigabitEthernet]

Another leftist nut 

[roseway]

Who are you referring to?

[AArdvark]

@roseway
I thought it was a well articulated and reasoned response from someone with a rightward leaning.
Much like most such responses.
This you obviously missed.   

[broadstairs]

I think Eric may have been referring to the comment about leftist nut, or maybe I am putting words in his mouth 

As to the petition I am confused, the title implies that RevK supports banning strong encryption which in my view is neither practical or desirable and I feel that if this is not what RevK supports the petition title should be changed to make it clear.

Stuart

[AArdvark]

I think Eric may have been referring to the comment about leftist nut, or maybe I am putting words in his mouth 

As to the petition I am confused, the title implies that RevK supports banning strong encryption which in my view is neither practical or desirable and I feel that if this is not what RevK supports the petition title should be changed to make it clear.

Stuart

So was I !! 

[roseway]

As to the petition I am confused...

I see what you mean Stuart. The petition title can be read either way, but the petition itself makes it clear that RevK is strongly opposing the proposed ban. It's to be hoped that people thinking of signing will read the petition first.

[broadstairs]

As to the petition I am confused...

I see what you mean Stuart. The petition title can be read either way, but the petition itself makes it clear that RevK is strongly opposing the proposed ban. It's to be hoped that people thinking of signing will read the petition first.

Yes I agree but I'm sure that some folks will read the title and not sign.

Stuart

[kitz]

@roseway
I thought it was a well articulated and reasoned response from someone with a rightward leaning.
Much like most such responses.
This you obviously missed.   

I see what you did there.

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I agree that the petition title is a bit confusing.  :/

[tommy45]

The web site browsing  logging ( which could be more intrusive than just which web page visited) http://www.revk.uk/2015/11/gagging-retention-orders.html
Isn't the only change that this bunch of brain dead, power hungry lunatics AKA conservatives seek to implement ,in order to further  infringe /erode our civil liberties/freedoms /privacy under the guise of anti terrorism , a word used each time they seek to deny us our rights, and keep the sheeple scared , do these lunatics not realise that if their ill thought out plans succeed those terrorists actually win without doing anything?

And if they are really so concerned about terrorists attacking us, them perhaps they should keep their nanny state noses out of foreign affairs  and stop trying play world policemen, or distributing trying to implement (without success) more fakery  that they call democracy

A bit deeper that what the topic title, but imo it's all connected in a joined up thinking world,

[AArdvark]

The web site browsing  logging ( which could be more intrusive than just which web page visited) http://www.revk.uk/2015/11/gagging-retention-orders.html
Isn't the only change that this bunch of brain dead, power hungry lunatics AKA conservatives seek to implement ,in order to further  infringe /erode our civil liberties/freedoms /privacy under the guise of anti terrorism , a word used each time they seek to deny us our rights, and keep the sheeple scared , do these lunatics not realise that if their ill thought out plans succeed those terrorists actually win without doing anything?

Good point and the 'Real' point to opposition to these plans. We create the thing that the Terrorists are already preaching exists. We give them ammunition and fulfill their dreams for them.

And if they are really so concerned about terrorists attacking us, them perhaps they should keep their nanny state noses out of foreign affairs  and stop trying play world policemen, or distributing trying to implement (without success) more fakery  that they call democracy

The 'World Policeman' point is further complicated by the simultaneous running down of our Forces while asking them to do more and more.
The UK has a history of 'Policing' the world and the old habits die hard.
We want to play with the 'Big Boys' but at the same time cannot afford it, both financially or in terms of consequences.
Syria is a perfect example of how our being pulled in two directions has left us officially 'out of the fight' but so desperately wanting to be in.
The Tories need to decide where they stand and be honest with the country regarding costs if they want to fight with the 'Big Boys'. Underhand actions like using British pilots on US planes is not honest or a long term solution.
Maybe the 'question' needs to be asked again then the answer will be clear and unambiguous either way.
Whether the UK can afford to be a 'World Policeman' is a very important question which is not being dealt with.
The world has changed and our relationships have changed as well.
Are we living in the past or letting the side down is the question which is being fudged because the answer may have an impact on the re-election prospects of the Tories.
This shows the Politicians in their true colours, where future positions and fame/fortune is the *only* question of any import to them.
Where are the Politicians with honesty and integrity who fight for principles and not future board positions when they leave Politics. ?
These questions are for all parties and should decide who you the voter want to support.
Anyone so busy feathering their own nest sure is not going to be working for your interest or mine, yet we just sit there and ignore it or don't care. !!   

A bit deeper that what the topic title, but imo it's all connected in a joined up thinking world,

BTW:
Be careful we are in danger of forming a 'leftist Nut Cluster' !! 

[Moderator edited to fix the broken quotations.]