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Author Topic: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.  (Read 5864 times)

Chrysalis

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Re: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2015, 08:51:40 PM »

openreach wont want to do it as it adds accountability.  Although it looks like they see it as an excuse to pump prices up.

Its a sad situation we in.
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Re: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2015, 07:24:17 AM »

Can you reference the Ofcom-OR situation you talk of please, Chrys. Be interested in reading that.
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Chrysalis

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Re: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2015, 09:59:35 PM »

I will send you a pm later, but it just be a quote as its unofficial email correspondence.

It is part of the ongoing openreach review that is been carried out now.
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Re: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2015, 03:08:46 PM »

Gentlefolk,

I must stress that real, properly trained, BT Openreach engineers usually try to do their very best although sometimes you can see they have an impossible workload within their allotted time frame.

However I have observed far too many pantomimes with repeat visits, sometimes due to previous engineers notes seemingly not being available or even mentioned. Sometimes they are caused by proscribed rules including the division of phone and broadband faults on the same line, detuned test instrumentation not observing what the EU can observe, no continuing real-time observations available to the engineer - even though it's obvious that they do exist. etc. etc. etc.

Kind regards,
Walter

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Re: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2015, 04:25:38 PM »

Talking of which …… no PM as yet regarding the 'paper-receipt of work done' comment, Chrys ??

"Openreach wont want to do it as it adds accountability.  Although it looks like they see it as an excuse to pump prices up".

I would have thought we as engineers would have heard slight mutterings/rumours, if this was being talked about ??
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Re: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2015, 08:00:09 PM »

I sent the PM, but as I said before its just a copy and paste of text I got.  Not sure if engineers would be aware of consultations between openreach and ofcom.
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Re: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2015, 08:16:14 PM »

Thank you.

I have had a look and as you say, it's a short paragraph with not much content at the moment. It appears to be at the '2 blokes chatting in a pub' stage, which is why nothing will have filtered down to us regarding this subject. 
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Re: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2015, 10:45:57 PM »

yeah this is just a unofficial comment made to me as to whats been said, this is several months away from any kind of agreement.  The main point was its been made clear to me that extra transparency is now unlikely for the end user, as neither openreach or CPs are asking for it.
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Re: Not a sea-change, but worth noting for reference purposes.
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2015, 07:19:52 AM »

Agreed.
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