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Author Topic: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk  (Read 36958 times)

jelv

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A petition about this has been started on the 10 Downing Street website: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/

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We petition the Prime Minister to investigate the Phorm technology and if found to breach UK or European privacy laws then ban all ISP's from adopting it's use. Additionally the privacy laws should be reviewed to cover any future technologies such as Phorm

The UK's three largest ISP's, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk are all in talks with a view to introducing the Phorm technology. This would result in the browsing habits of the majority of the UK population being sold to a third party for advertising purposes. The opt out system for this technology is vague and unproven, even when opting out your every move on the Internet might be recorded. Surely this must be a breach of privacy laws, if not then the privacy laws need to be changed to cover such invasive technology.
 
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 12:34:44 PM »

Signed - I think this one is quite important.

Not that Ive got anything to hide about my surfing habits but I do not like the fact that data about my usage will be stored with the specific intention of targeting me with advertising.

Nor do I like the fact that this information is under the control of a third-party which has had a dubious history in the past.
Fair enough record surfing habits to protect against child abuse etc - but ISPs selling this data to other companies.  NO!
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 12:43:48 PM »

For me the most worrying aspect of this is the precedent it sets: that ISPs can send information on your browsing habits to a third party (and in this case a highly dubious third party) without your permission. The opt out that is offered only stops you getting targeted adverts - it does not stop information about your browsing being sent to Phorm. Despite their protestations, I cannot believe that they will be doing nothing with all that data - why would they incur all the costs of receiving and processing it if they are not going to use it in some way?

How long before this is forced on BT subsidiaries and, if the ISPs can make money out of it (as I believe there must be or else why would they be doing it), many other ISPs adopt the same system?

Because of the precedent it sets I'd urge everyone to sign the petition - not just users on the three ISP's named (how many other ISPs are already in secret talks with Phorm?).

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 12:47:44 PM »

Signed.
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 12:57:54 PM »

Likewise.
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 01:18:24 PM »

Ditto  ;)
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 02:41:11 PM »

Signed.
And this is the site of the people with the idea of Phorm.

http://www.phorm.com

dave

Just been on the site and the Adblock in Firefox is indicating that I can block the changing quotes fron different 'experts' who have written about it.  :lol:
« Last Edit: March 06, 2008, 03:33:59 PM by dave.m »
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 06:06:42 PM »

Also signed :)

Might be worth keeping an eye out and remembering about this in the future, as the petition is open until next year!
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2008, 07:52:42 AM »

I've done my duty.
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 11:51:25 AM »

Ditto
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 11:56:43 AM »

Me too.
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2008, 05:52:12 PM »

I've signed as well.

Just a question, everytime I see this thread I read it as 'porn'  virgin media etc.  Is it just my mind :P
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2008, 06:31:48 PM »



Just a question, everytime I see this thread I read it as 'porn' .  Is it just my mind :P

YES! YES! YES!

Stay behind after lessons and I'll explain the difference.

dave  :graduate:
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2008, 07:00:39 PM »

I've signed as well.

Just a question, everytime I see this thread I read it as 'porn'  virgin media etc.  Is it just my mind :P

I'm glad I'm not the only one. :-[
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Re: 10 Downing Street Petition about Phorn, Virgin Media, BT and TalkTalk
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2008, 08:03:05 PM »

 :-X


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