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[N0STIE]

Hi there!

I am new on kitz.co.uk

Just wondering if my line is still interleaved or already on fastpath? Getting about 20-23ms to uk hosts such as multiplay.co.uk, google.co.uk, kelly.co.uk etc

I can't post any stats as I am using locked ECI modem combined with HH5 Type B, although my line doesn't below to the shortest out there, about 700m from the ECI cabinet. Getting rock solid Infinity 1 speed (39/8)
 
Btw. why is my early hop same as other hops - 20ms? I can't post any other trace routes if needed.
 
C:\Users\Admin>tracert bbc.co.uk
Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20]
over a maximum 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms BTHUB5 [192.168.1.254]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * 19 ms 19 ms 31.55.185.193
4 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms 31.55.185.212
5 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 195.99.127.130
6 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms vhsaccess2-pos1-0.faraday.fixed.bt.net [195.99.127.9]
7 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 195.99.127.23
8 24 ms 19 ms 19 ms 194.74.65.42
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109]
12 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 132.185.255.149
13 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms fmt-vip71.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20]
Trace complete.

Cheers!

[Dray]

Hi N0STIE, I was talking about you earlier when you thought you were monitoring your stats using MDWS here - http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,14361.msg290131.html#msg290131

[Dray]

I think your ping shows you are on an interleaved connection. My fastpath ping is about half of what you're seeing.

The reason why all your hops are around the same ping is that your ping is mostly due to the first hop which is the remote gateway, the entrance to your ISP. All the other hops are probably less than the first hop and so have no effect.

If you really want to know the parameters for your line, you will need a modem capable of displaying them to you. An unlocked Huawei HG612 v3B is ideal for this.

The Huawei HG612 can be monitored 24*7 using DSLstats or HG612-modem-stats. These apps can also upload the data to MyDslWebStats so you can see them and compare them and discuss them with others, instead of looking at Guest stats which actually belong to tbailey2.

[boost]

Where abouts in the UK are you? People in the North AND on BT are seeing those kinds of pings on fastpath, I believe.

[tommy45]

It depends on how BT route people, and location of the ISP data centre they route the connection to, The same can and does apply with LLU providers

Ukonline fast path = 7-8ms to 1st hop but 13ms base latency
Be unlimited         = 20ms base latency
BEwholesale           26ms base latency
Plusnet                 11-13ms base latency
Zen                      7ms 1st hop Manchester data centre 13ms base latency to some uk based destinations, due to    Zen's peering some are less than 13ms

All from same connection on fast path/G.inp and I'm in the north west

[N0STIE]

I am in Liverpool @boost

I can't believe my connection is on fastpath with that kind of ping!

[boost]

If you're with BT, it's a very real possibility, unfortunately.

[boost]

It depends on how BT route people, and location of the ISP data centre they route the connection to, The same can and does apply with LLU providers

Ukonline fast path = 7-8ms to 1st hop but 13ms base latency
Be unlimited         = 20ms base latency
BEwholesale           26ms base latency
Plusnet                 11-13ms base latency
Zen                      7ms 1st hop Manchester data centre 13ms base latency to some uk based destinations, due to    Zen's peering some are less than 13ms

All from same connection on fast path/G.inp and I'm in the north west

Plusnet was awesome for latency when I had FTTC with them. 9ms first hop, 10ms end to end and 12/13 ping in game.


UK Online sounds very interesting?

[Dray]

UKonline, BE unlimited and BE wholesale don't exist.

[tommy45]

UKonline, BE unlimited and BE wholesale don't exist.

Yes they sadly no are no longer , the reason for the low latency to the 1st hop with Ukonline was down to that first hop being the LLU kit in my exchange, it wasn't  consistent as it would fluctuate a little but always under the 13ms
But the 7ms to zen's data centre in Manchester  is a consistent almost flat line 6-7ms (1st hop) i have monitored it over a long period of time ,as i did with all previous connections

[N0STIE]

I can remember that my 2 first hopes had different IP when I was doing trace routes, something like 2xx.... and it was about 15-16ms but the final ping was much higher like 30ish ms to bbc.co.uk, now the IPs are different starting at 3x... and the first hops ms are pretty much the same as the final ones.

[tommy45]

It will be down to the route it takes to their data centre in London, but you should be able to get a ping of around 13ms
but that is BT consumer for you, 

[N0STIE]

So are you assuming I may be on fastpath with that kind of mad route from BT side? Well since I bought my ECI modem which happened 8 days ago, after 2 days of using it my ping decreased from 28-30ms to 20-22ms to bbc.co.uk. My line is stable at the moment. I think I am going to wait another week or two to see what will happen. Perhaps it will decrease another 8ms. Let's hope!

Believe me or not I have used to join some UK's teamspeaks to see what pings people are getting, like 80% of them get 6-10ms less than me. Mine is 20-25ms. I play a lot online FPS games so latency is very important for me.

[Dray]

The only way you can be sure is to use a modem that tells you if you're on fastpath or interleaved path.
Usually that means using either an unlocked BT modem or a 3rd party modem that tells you by default.

[N0STIE]

Well at the moment my connection and stuff is fine, waiting for G.INP to be enable on my DSLAM then will worry what next! Probably buying HG612 3B if g.inp will affect my connection.