Kitz ADSL Broadband Information
adsl spacer  
Support this site
Home Broadband ISPs Tech Routers Wiki Forum
 
     
   Compare ISP   Rate your ISP
   Glossary   Glossary
 
Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Pages: [1] 2 3

Author Topic: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit  (Read 8878 times)

jeffers

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 29
250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« on: April 23, 2015, 08:47:27 PM »

Hello all!

FTTC has been enabled about a month ago for my cab (i was the first on it), and theres about 250m of cable between my house and the cab (~130m as the crow flies) so I think I should be getting pretty close to the full 80Mbit. On the initial install date the BTO engineer also said I should get the full 80. Anyway, due to some issues with PlusNet I ended up rebooting my plusnet router a load of times (but not the original ECI Openreach modem) for the first day or so of being live. I hope this wouldnt have caused DLM or anything to kick in. When PlusNet fixed my account my first speedtests looked fine - 72Mbit pretty consistently. Shortly afterwards my speeds dropped and have settled around the 65Mbit mark...

http://www.speedtest.net/results.php?sh=351f211f4b6ab6803c5bead4746a12ac&ria=0

I've finally replaced the original ECI modem and hooked up an unlocked HG612. Without knowing much about FTTC yet, I can see that my max attainable speed is pretty much my current sync speed...

Code: [Select]
# xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 23897 Kbps, Downstream rate = 64616 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 18999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 66237 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 5.8 9.0
Attn(dB): 18.3 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.4 6.7
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 18 137
B: 239 236
M: 1 1
T: 23 6
R: 0 16
S: 0.1153 0.3974
L: 16648 5134
D: 1 1
I: 240 255
N: 240 255
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 3068797 935059
OHFErr: 90 0
RS: 0 1565223
RSCorr: 0 1
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 100 0
OCD: 5 0
LCD: 5 0
Total Cells: 780245879 0
Data Cells: 7686592 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 43 133
SES: 0 3
UAS: 27 240522
AS: 6130

Bearer 0
INP: 0.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 1.99 6.58
OR: 96.13 173.80
AgR: 66332.88 19172.57

Bitswap: 4860/4861 6/7

Total time = 1 hours 42 min 37 sec
FEC: 0 1
CRC: 90 0
ES: 43 133
SES: 0 3
UAS: 27 240522
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 12 min 37 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 5 0
ES: 4 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 24 0
ES: 9 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 1 hours 42 min 37 sec
FEC: 0 1
CRC: 90 0
ES: 43 133
SES: 0 3
UAS: 27 240522
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 1 hours 42 min 9 sec
FEC: 0 1
CRC: 90 0
ES: 43 133
SES: 0 3
UAS: 0 240495
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0

My internal wiring is fairly minimal and I dont hear any noise on my line.

Have I just got unrealistic expectations or is there likely a problem somewhere?

Thanks
Jeffers
Logged

Dray

  • Kitizen
  • ****
  • Posts: 2361
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2015, 09:10:52 PM »

Which firmware is on that HG612 ?
Logged

jeffers

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 29
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2015, 09:13:00 PM »

Which firmware is on that HG612 ?

Oops, forgot about that..

Code: [Select]
# equipcmd swversion display
software version: V100R001C01B030SP08
xdsl firmware version: A2pv6C038m.d24j
cpu version: BCM6368
cfe version: 1.0.37-102.6
Logged

ip75

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 71
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2015, 09:44:57 PM »

The attenuation looks a bit high for a 250m line. My line is about that length and I have attenuation of around 11db. The stats seem consistent with a longer line - do you think that's possible?
Logged

Dray

  • Kitizen
  • ****
  • Posts: 2361
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2015, 09:53:39 PM »

I'd say one issue is the lack of G.INP. Are you connected to a Huawei cab?
Logged

jeffers

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 29
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2015, 10:00:24 PM »

I'd say one issue is the lack of G.INP. Are you connected to a Huawei cab?
No idea. I'll have to take a walk down and snap a picture of it. Unless I can get it out of the modem stats?
Logged

Bald_Eagle1

  • Helpful
  • Kitizen
  • *
  • Posts: 2721
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2015, 10:05:37 PM »

Telnet command xdslcmd info --vendor will confirm one way or the other.

The very soon to be released update to HG612 Modem Stats will also display that detail as per the attachment.
Logged

jeffers

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 29
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2015, 10:09:13 PM »

Telnet command xdslcmd info --vendor will confirm one way or the other.

The very soon to be released update to HG612 Modem Stats will also display that detail as per the attachment.

Code: [Select]
# xdslcmd info --vendor
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 23811 Kbps, Downstream rate = 63000 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 18999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 66237 Kbps

ChipSet Vendor Id: IFTN:0xd086
ChipSet VersionNumber: 0xd086
ChipSet SerialNumber:

I've also just started sending data to mdslstats (same username)
Logged

Dray

  • Kitizen
  • ****
  • Posts: 2361
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2015, 10:12:34 PM »

So that's an ECI cab
Logged

jeffers

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 29
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2015, 10:15:26 PM »

So that's an ECI cab

And would explain the ECI modem the BTO guy gave me. There doesnt seem to be any noticeable speed differences between the ECI and the HG612
Logged

burakkucat

  • Respected
  • Senior Kitizen
  • *
  • Posts: 38300
  • Over the Rainbow Bridge
    • The ELRepo Project
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2015, 11:17:32 PM »

Telnet command xdslcmd info --vendor will confirm one way or the other.

More correctly, that command will disclose the line-card's chipset and that, in turn, allows one to establish the type of DSLAM.  :)
Logged
:cat:  100% Linux and, previously, Unix. Co-founder of the ELRepo Project.

Please consider making a donation to support the running of this site.

WWWombat

  • Kitizen
  • ****
  • Posts: 1674
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2015, 05:23:04 PM »

The attenuation looks a bit high for a 250m line. My line is about that length and I have attenuation of around 11db. The stats seem consistent with a longer line - do you think that's possible?

I agree with this.

My last line was about 350-400m, and the HG612 reported attenuation of 16.9dB; your attenuation is slightly higher - so you either have a longer line, or a thinner one, or both.

I've attached the stats from last year, when the cab had been standing for over 3 years. Attainable speeds had dropped around 12Mbps over the 2 years we had that service.
Logged

jeffers

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 29
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2015, 06:15:40 PM »

Thanks for the info. I have followed the poles and measured on google maps - its actually less than 250m, something around 215m. Obviously this doesn't include the additional wiring inside the cabs but it should be fairly accurate, and nowhere near the 400m+ mark expected for this level of attenuation.

Prior to FTTC, I was on ADSL2+ and and did all I could to improve the line performance, including replacing all internal wiring which may or may not have included a new NTE5  :police:. The speeds I was getting were pretty good considering my distance from the exchange. Does anything else affect the attenuation? Dodgy filter from the BTO engineer maybe? Whilst 65Mbit is a huge improvement over my old connection I want to make sure I'm getting the most out of it.

My stats have been uploading to mydslwebstats since last night (user jeffers) if anyone is willing to take a look. I did notice a resync this morning to a slightly higher speed but nothing significant.

All help appreciated!
Jeffers
Logged

ip75

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 71
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2015, 06:44:40 PM »

From looking at your stats, I would guess there is a fault somewhere. You had a large burst of CRC errors at 9:21am which led to a resync, and generally speaking your SNRM is moving around a lot. It is possible, I believe, for an HR type fault to cause an increase in apparent attenuation.

Did anything happen at 9:21 this morning that could have caused the errors? Maybe a phone call?

Could you let us know how your internal wiring is arranged? I don't want to come over all call centre, but does plugging the modem into the test socket on the master help at all?
Logged

jeffers

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 29
Re: 250m from cab but syncing at 65Mbit
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2015, 07:11:28 PM »

From looking at your stats, I would guess there is a fault somewhere. You had a large burst of CRC errors at 9:21am which led to a resync, and generally speaking your SNRM is moving around a lot. It is possible, I believe, for an HR type fault to cause an increase in apparent attenuation.

Did anything happen at 9:21 this morning that could have caused the errors? Maybe a phone call?

Could you let us know how your internal wiring is arranged? I don't want to come over all call centre, but does plugging the modem into the test socket on the master help at all?

I was at work, I just text my wife to see if she used the phone or anything... BUT, I just rang 1471 to see if I had any missed calls. And my connection dropped (about19:05)! The BTO guy fitted a new face thing to my NTE5, I'm guessing thats a glorified filter? Can I just pull it off to get to the master socket?
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3
 

anything