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Author Topic: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)  (Read 15874 times)

Jakg

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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2015, 10:40:31 PM »

And the BT Broadband availability checker...

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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2015, 07:36:13 AM »

I would be trying this next:

http://www.sky.com/products/broadband-talk/broadband/features/


...but accepting from the word go it may end up the same or worse.
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Jakg

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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2015, 07:56:22 AM »

Is LLU likely to make a difference?

Their speed checker estimates 0.3-0.9 Mbps.
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2015, 08:10:52 AM »

My old man had a solid 4Mb with Sky. 58dB line.

In your position, I'd be trying absolutely anything :P
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2015, 08:26:39 AM »

That isn't any indication of the likely speed on a line that could be above 75db!
« Last Edit: April 28, 2015, 08:30:52 AM by jelv »
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2015, 08:34:18 AM »

@Jakg

Were you not aware that the broadband was likely to be dire before you moved?
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2015, 09:38:55 AM »

That isn't any indication of the likely speed on a line that could be above 75db!

Absolutely :D

It's been suggested they run G.INP on their ADSL product which might help... quite a bit :D

It may be worth ordering a complete line+DSL with them. Don't cancel your existing. Let them manage the entire process. This will possibly highlight the availability of spare pairs in your area (or not) and will also give Sky some flexibility to bin the line if it's completely hopeless, perhaps. There's a 30 day period from point of install where whinging is taken seriously, I believe?
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Jakg

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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2015, 10:05:58 AM »

@Jakg

Were you not aware that the broadband was likely to be dire before you moved?
Yes and no.

I'd heard anecdotal stories of "terrible" broadband in the area, but I tend to take that with a pinch of salt as a lot of people don't really understand the difference between a good and poor connection anyway.

I spoke to BT & looked online at the speed estimators and they suggested 1-3.5Mbps - somewhere in the middle of that isn't exactly fast, but would've been adequate.

I'm trying to be pragmatic and get the best out of what I have.
That isn't any indication of the likely speed on a line that could be above 75db!

Absolutely :D

It's been suggested they run G.INP on their ADSL product which might help... quite a bit :D

It may be worth ordering a complete line+DSL with them. Don't cancel your existing. Let them manage the entire process. This will possibly highlight the availability of spare pairs in your area (or not) and will also give Sky some flexibility to bin the line if it's completely hopeless, perhaps. There's a 30 day period from point of install where whinging is taken seriously, I believe?
A new line + broadband from Sky is a min 12 month contract which is £286. Thats a lot of money to try just as a test!

(but the actual ongoing cost, if less than £30-£40 a month is basically irrelevant if it's any better!)

I'll do some more research into LLU long lines / Sky etc - but in the meantime I'll keep dropping my SNR and then try manually specifying the ADSL mode so that I have a solid benchmark and hopefully some more accurate line stats.
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2015, 10:16:26 AM »

You're already showing quite a few errors at 6dB. In reality, your line probably needs 12dB just to cope with the plethora of joints and noise ingress along that 7k route. Couple this with IPstream profiles and you are basically flogging a dead horse.

Best of luck, though :)
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2015, 10:47:36 AM »

When we were looking for a house two years ago I would not even look at any house where the predicted speed was below 4mb!
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2015, 12:51:27 PM »

Bond two (or more ) lines together ?.
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2015, 12:56:07 PM »

I've looked into it but it looks like it'll cost quite a bit - another line (£130 upfront + £15pm rental), another broadband contract (£15pm), some fee per line for the bonding (2x£10pm). Thats £50 a month on top of what I already pay - and I get a download limit to think about as well. I just don't think thats worth it :(
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2015, 01:20:32 PM »

I think you can do a lot better than that. TalkTalk will install a new line for £50 and simply broadband with a phone line is around £15 per month. You just need a load balancing router to combine the two with no ongoing monthly charge and probably unlimited downloads too.
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2015, 02:08:46 PM »

If you had a decent line, how high do you anticipate your usage would be?
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Re: Getting the very most out of my connection (672 Kbps ADSL)
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2015, 02:30:19 PM »

Back when I had an 8Mbps line - 300GB a month!

I'd written off line bonding due to the cost, but load balancing seems a lot cheaper - but not such a big advantage. Something to think about.
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