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Author Topic: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?  (Read 30380 times)

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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2015, 01:50:45 PM »

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It strikes me that the Broadcom chipset perhaps varies by the card-type,

You have a point, because the line cards do contain their own chipset.   With never having been in a situation to be able to inspect a line card close up whilst being able to see what the modem reports, its not something I can confirm one way or other.   

However just having had a google, I see that on the Huawei MSAN (such as the ones used in the exchange by TT) appears to report the IFTN chipset on the line card.


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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2015, 03:25:15 PM »

Quick update...................

I have just seen evidence elsewhere that G.INP is also actually available via these DSLAMS:-

ChipSet Vendor Id:      BDCM:0xa485
ChipSet VersionNumber:  0xa485

Mine is on one of those as well and G.INP is showing as active on DSLSTATS and I am using a Billion 8800AXL modem/router.

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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2015, 04:59:02 PM »

However just having had a google, I see that on the Huawei MSAN (such as the ones used in the exchange by TT) appears to report the IFTN chipset on the line card.

Now that is interesting information.

I had no idea that the MSAN, through which my (TalkTalk) service is provided, is Huawei hardware. However I have been aware that the chipset returns an Infineon identity.

Different line cards with chipsets by different manufacturers . . . yes, that is certainly something to consider.

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# xdslcmd info --vendor
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 8000
Max: Upstream rate = 1012 Kbps, Downstream rate = 6632 Kbps
Channel: INTR, Upstream rate = 1004 Kbps, Downstream rate = 5726 Kbps

ChipSet Vendor Id: IFTN:0x71c8
ChipSet VersionNumber: 0x71c8
ChipSet SerialNumber:
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2015, 05:55:58 PM »

Well my Zyxel returns

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xdslctl info --vendor
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 23670 Kbps, Downstream rate = 66116 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 64995 Kbps

ChipSet Vendor Id:      IFTN:0xb204
ChipSet VersionNumber:  0xb204
ChipSet SerialNumber:   5502332647

and I'm with TalkTalk here in Thanet so what does that mean?

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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2015, 06:19:08 PM »

b*cat sulks because Stuart can see his line-card's chipset serial number . . .  ;)

. . . I'm with TalkTalk here in Thanet so what does that mean?

I suspect that is showing we are connected to different revision line-cards, perhaps?  :-\

(Edited to correct the oops in Stuart's name.  :-[  )
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2015, 08:33:14 PM »

More especially I was wondering what it might mean for G.INP.... if anything?

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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2015, 08:39:58 PM »

More especially I was wondering what it might mean for G.INP.... if anything?

I have not detected any suggestion that G.Inp will be used on ADSL2(+) circuits.
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2015, 08:45:33 PM »

b*cat - Ive known for a long time that the Huawei adsl2+ MSANs in the exchange reported IFTN. 

This dates back to my visits to a couple of exchanges about 7/8yrs ago. Aside from seeing them with my own eyes,  Its well known that TT - or rather Opal Communications - bought & installed Huawei MSANs in all exchanges... and since a friend of mine who's line I set up was with TT at the time it didnt take me long to suss that they had IFTN chipsets.  I am 100% certain of these facts.

As well as it being on the MSAN page I also put the info here.

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I had no idea that the MSAN, through which my (TalkTalk) service is provided, is Huawei hardware.

Im sure Ive told you that before because you asked why I had IFTN listed by Huawei MSAN, because you queried something re the huawei fttc dslams and BCM  in the same list.   What I didn't know until the google yesterday is that it reported the chip from the linecard, not the main MSAN itself.   

The Huawei MSANs are likely UA5000's but I only had permission to poke at BTw equipment and not LLU, so anything to do with LLU I could look and not touch, and no photos allowed of LLU kit aside from the handover frame which is BTw owned.  Whatever they are they are a heck of a lot larger than the DSLAMs in the cab with a lot more line cards - they take up a full size rack about 7 ft tall (much taller than me).   They have to be full MSANs because they dont just handle broadband but also handle lots of telephony for MPF LLU.

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I'm with TalkTalk here in Thanet so what does that mean?

You're on FTTC.. so attached to an ECI DSLAM.   
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2015, 08:58:51 PM »

The only excuse is that b*cat has been to sleep since then and, thus, had forgotten.  :-[

Memories of a previous discussion with our leader, Kitz, are now returning. Where's my brown-paper bag?  :paperbag:
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2015, 09:08:44 PM »

hehe... no worries b*cat.   

My memory is like a sieve sometimes too. :D
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2015, 08:41:21 AM »

I'm on a Huawei FTTC Cab, is there any way to find out when G.INP will be enabled on it.
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2015, 10:04:53 AM »

It very probably is already.
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2015, 10:36:08 AM »

On my stats it's showing as 'Not Enabled'.

Stats recorded 14 Apr 2015 10:37:05

DSLAM/MSAN type:           BDCM:0xa44f / v0xa44f
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6C030b.d22g

         Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     0.0      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not monitored      
Connection speed (kbps):   17999      3695

G.INP:                     Not enabled      

« Last Edit: April 14, 2015, 10:38:37 AM by KIAB »
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2015, 10:42:12 AM »


Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6C030b.d22g
I think you need to update the firmware on the modem.
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Re: G.INP Enabled on all Huawei FTTC Cabs?
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2015, 08:42:00 PM »

I think you need to update the firmware on the modem.

@KIAB - I run bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B030SP08_webgui from http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,14262.0.html on my HG612 and G.INP is definitely enabled on mine!
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