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Bald_Eagle1

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #390 on: May 27, 2015, 10:04:58 PM »

So, it appears from that statement that users with HG612 or some other modems that are both downstream & upstream G.INP retransmission capable/ready will not be negatively affected by the application of interleaving when connected to Huawei DSLAMS.

i.e. the very low interleaving depths of 16 or in most cases lower that we have seen since G.INP was activated will remain?

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #391 on: May 27, 2015, 10:09:30 PM »

Any chance you could leave the Billion 8800NL on and have it upload the line stats to:
http://www.mydslwebstats.co.uk/
Pretty please?

OK, as you asked so nicely :P
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #392 on: May 27, 2015, 10:13:13 PM »

But why BE1 are we starting to see the removal of G.INP on the upstream on the MKII rollout any change on my old MK1 G.INP rollout on upstream will have a negative result on my line  :-\
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #393 on: May 27, 2015, 10:16:02 PM »

I'm afraid I can't really answer that, unless it only affects those modems such as ECI, HH5A etc. that aren't G.INP capable on the upstream direction.

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #394 on: May 27, 2015, 10:20:25 PM »

I'm afraid I can't really answer that, unless it only affects those modems such as ECI, HH5A etc. that aren't G.INP capable on the upstream direction.

But it was posted by a member that a HG612 modem on a Huawei cabinet lost G.INP on their upstream I can't verify this as there is nothing to backup the claim  :(
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #395 on: May 27, 2015, 10:26:53 PM »

Well, going off the timing of the initial G.INP rollout, it could be 3 or 4 weeks before they get round to any adjustments via my cabinet.

I will of course post here if I see anything.

I'll also be testing with Asbo's original SP10 firmware (NOT G.INP capable) & reporting back if/when anything happens here.

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #396 on: May 27, 2015, 10:28:08 PM »

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So, it appears from that statement that users with HG612 or some other modems that are both downstream & upstream G.INP retransmission capable/ready will not be negatively affected by the application of interleaving when connected to Huawei DSLAMS.

afaik that should be correct.
What they have been working on is a solution for incompatible modems by changing the profiles for non ReTx modems.  The first thing that the DSLAM does before selecting the DLM profile is check whether the modem is g.inp compatible or not.  I went into a little more depth on the 'nonRe-Tx' profiles in my update last week.

FYI attached is an example of the ReTX parameters that be configured by the DLM.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2015, 10:53:13 PM by kitz »
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #397 on: May 27, 2015, 10:29:04 PM »

I'm afraid I can't really answer that, unless it only affects those modems such as ECI, HH5A etc. that aren't G.INP capable on the upstream direction.

But it was posted by a member that a HG612 modem on a Huawei cabinet lost G.INP on their upstream I can't verify this as there is nothing to backup the claim  :(

If you're referring to me, my stats are on MDWS. Re sync was 06:36 on the 26th May.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #398 on: May 27, 2015, 10:29:32 PM »

I'm afraid I can't really answer that, unless it only affects those modems such as ECI, HH5A etc. that aren't G.INP capable on the upstream direction.

But it was posted by a member that a HG612 modem on a Huawei cabinet lost G.INP on their upstream I can't verify this as there is nothing to backup the claim  :(

Perhaps it didn't need it?
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #399 on: May 27, 2015, 10:30:02 PM »

I'm afraid I can't really answer that, unless it only affects those modems such as ECI, HH5A etc. that aren't G.INP capable on the upstream direction.

But it was posted by a member that a HG612 modem on a Huawei cabinet lost G.INP on their upstream I can't verify this as there is nothing to backup the claim  :(

I've seen this happen on mine, gone to Fastpath on Upstream now, and G.INP only on Downstream - all the stats are on MDWS :) Resync on the 25/5/15.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #400 on: May 27, 2015, 10:30:35 PM »

I'm afraid I can't really answer that, unless it only affects those modems such as ECI, HH5A etc. that aren't G.INP capable on the upstream direction.

But it was posted by a member that a HG612 modem on a Huawei cabinet lost G.INP on their upstream I can't verify this as there is nothing to backup the claim  :(

Could be, but now my upstream ES count is increasing, so seems G.INP was helping ???

Perhaps it didn't need it?
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #401 on: May 27, 2015, 10:32:32 PM »

Are you & ip75 both using HG612 modems or maybe a Billion or ZyXel?
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #402 on: May 27, 2015, 10:34:16 PM »

Are you & ip75 both using HG612 modems or maybe a Billion or ZyXel?

HG612 with wolfy's latest firmware I'm using

Code: [Select]
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 1
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 30714 Kbps, Downstream rate = 82800 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.6 15.1
Attn(dB): 15.5 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.6 6.6
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 130 237
M: 1 1
T: 0 42
R: 8 16
S: 0.0518 0.3781
L: 21468 5374
D: 16 1
I: 139 127
N: 139 254
Q: 16 0
V: 14 0
RxQueue: 60 0
TxQueue: 20 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 20 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 186 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 5.3333 0.0000
L: 48 0
D: 3 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 1533486
OHFErr: 0 162
RS: 1355617520 2033848
RSCorr: 7019640 1110
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 15001649 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 180019051 0
RSCorr: 8 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 2448301 9785
rtx_c: 2409703 6451
rtx_uc: 76978 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 83966 167
minEFTR: 79982 19991
errFreeBits: 651307888 1655204713

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 2711175453 0
Data Cells: 188806563 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 77 121
SES: 31 0
UAS: 116 95
AS: 240968

Bearer 0
INP: 48.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 3.98
OR: 0.01 64.22
AgR: 80614.82 20063.54

Bearer 1
INP: 4.00 0.00
INPRein: 4.00 0.00
delay: 3 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 95.62 0.01
AgR: 95.62 0.01

Bitswap: 157969/157969 623/624

Total time = 1 days 23 hours 25 min 26 sec
FEC: 201909852 73922
CRC: 7800 176
ES: 77 121
SES: 31 0
UAS: 116 95
LOS: 2 0
LOF: 20 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 10 min 26 sec
FEC: 32697 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 46822 6
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 23 hours 25 min 26 sec
FEC: 2675194 351
CRC: 0 57
ES: 0 36
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 2996217 427
CRC: 0 60
ES: 0 43
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 2 days 18 hours 56 min 7 sec
FEC: 7019640 1110
CRC: 0 162
ES: 0 109
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #403 on: May 27, 2015, 10:34:25 PM »

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So, it appears from that statement that users with HG612 or some other modems that are both downstream & upstream G.INP retransmission capable/ready will not be negatively affected by the application of interleaving when connected to Huawei DSLAMS.

afaik that should be correct.
What they have been working on is a solution for incompatible modems by changing the non-ReTx profiles.  The first thing that the DSLAM does before selecting the DLM profile is check whether the modem is g.inp compatible or not.  I went into a little more depth on the 'nonRe-Tx' profiles in my update last week.

FYI attached is an example of the ReTX parameters that be configured by the DLM.

Thanks, kitz.

I hoped you would spot my question & re-confirm what you had mentioned previously.

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #404 on: May 27, 2015, 10:36:31 PM »

Are you & ip75 both using HG612 modems or maybe a Billion or ZyXel?

HG612 with wolfy's latest firmware I'm using

Hmm.

I might see something in due course via my HG612 then.

I have to say that some of BTOR's statements can be a little ambiguous at times, at least for us EUs.


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