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Author Topic: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.  (Read 274215 times)

currytop

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #285 on: May 14, 2015, 07:33:16 PM »

AAISP are now supplying the Zyxel VMG1312 which supports G.INP. I wonder if they would swap your Technicolor for one? It's a VDSL router so you could replace the ECI modem.

That's interesting! Yes they supplied a TG582 for use as a router only but I'm not using it. I may ask them about just that possibility - thanks for the heads up.

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #286 on: May 14, 2015, 09:57:04 PM »

Whats the point if your modem is G.INP enable and the line had G.INP removed by the DSLAM you can't use your new G.INP equipment until OR start the rollout again in 12 months time.

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #287 on: May 14, 2015, 10:14:48 PM »

Huh? Have OR rolled back the G.INP implementation? I haven't checked for a while now but my line hasn't re-sync'd so I think it's still on my line...
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #288 on: May 14, 2015, 10:21:35 PM »

Whats the point if your modem is G.INP enable and the line had G.INP removed by the DSLAM you can't use your new G.INP equipment until OR start the rollout again in 12 months time.

The lines on a DLM g.inp profile still have it enabled.

Also I think it will be alot quicker than 12 months, aaisp will be on their case long before then for a resolution, remember whilst this trial is ongoing all those affected users (Excluding the few on the trial) are still with crippled performance.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #289 on: May 14, 2015, 10:34:49 PM »

Whats the point if your modem is G.INP enable and the line had G.INP removed by the DSLAM you can't use your new G.INP equipment until OR start the rollout again in 12 months time.

Well in that case I'd still have fastpath performance like I had before, but if G.INP was rolled out again in XX months I wouldn't be stuck with the current high latency.

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #290 on: May 14, 2015, 11:26:19 PM »

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The suspension is only for new lines or those that have had a DLM reset and it most certainly is NOT 12 months.  There's plenty of lines that still have g.inp applied.

Currytop is one of the unfortunates who has found himself worse off with G.INP :(
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #291 on: May 15, 2015, 06:03:26 PM »

I know it not an actual fact to when OpenReach start the 2nd rollout of G.INP but we must be realistic here as we all know to well how very slow OR implements it's technology from trial to the end-user, so i have put down my own rollout date March 2016.

PS you forgot another G.INP will be removed when you change your ISP.

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #292 on: May 16, 2015, 10:30:00 AM »

PS you forgot another G.INP will be removed when you change your ISP.

I don't need G.INP, I was perfectly happy with the line before it was turned on, and I have too much invested in my ISP to look at changing for a while.

I just won a HG612 at a fair price so will see if that resolves the issue.

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #293 on: May 16, 2015, 11:18:06 AM »

I've had an Unlimited 80/20 fibre connection since June 2013.  Download speeds have always been rock-solid at ~73Mb/s with pings around 10ms.  However, in April I noticed that my BT IP Profile had reduced to 66 and my pings were more than double at 24ms.  I raised a ticket with PN Support to ask why this had happened.  After of a couple of exchanges the issue was put down to the implementation of G.INP on my line.

I have a Huawei cabinet at the end of my road (approx. 100m from my house), but was supplied with a ECI modem by the BT engineer when Fibre Optic BB was installed in 2013.  At the time this was not a problem, but the device firmware does not support G.INP, hence the drop is speed and increased Ping when the G.INP technology was implemented at the cabinet in April.

After reading about the G.INP rollout I acquired a HUAWEI EchoLife HG612 BT openreach modem and followed the instructions on the Kitz website to unlock the device and upgraded it to the latest B030SP08 firmware which fully supports G.INP.  As soon as I connected the HG612 my BT IP Profile went back up to 77 and Ping came back down to 10ms again.

The output from DSLStats confirms the improved sync speed and that G.INP is active on my line.

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Stats recorded 12 May 2015 07:49:24

DSLAM/MSAN type:        BDCM:0xa44f / v0xa44f
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  11 hours 10 min 1 sec
Resyncs:                0 (since 12 May 2015 07:49:18)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  11.1 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not monitored
Connection speed (kbps): 79999 20000
SNR margin (dB):        7.9 13.3
Power (dBm):            13.4 -2.0
Interleave depth:        16 8
INP:                    46.00 47.00
G.INP:                  Enabled

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0000 0.0016
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0 0

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #294 on: May 16, 2015, 11:47:25 AM »

That's an excellent result.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #295 on: May 16, 2015, 11:48:37 AM »

That's what I'm hoping for too (Apart from my 40Mb cap)!

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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #296 on: May 16, 2015, 06:10:10 PM »

I don't need G.INP, I was perfectly happy with the line before it was turned on, and I have too

well i do need G.INP and since it's been removed from my line i am back to interleaving depth of 591 and back to the bad old days all thanks to ?

Stats recorded 16 May 2015 18:06:50

DSLAM/MSAN type:           BDCM:0xa44f / v0xa44f
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6C038m.d24j
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                    5 min 35 sec
Resyncs:                   0 (since 16 May 2015 18:02:46)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     24.8      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not monitored      
Connection speed (kbps):   30247      6375
SNR margin (dB):           5.9      6.0
Power (dBm):               11.2      0.6
Interleave depth:          591      1
INP:                       3.00      0
G.INP:                     Not enabled      

RSCorr/RS (%):             0.0840      0.0000
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           0.0000      0.0000
ES/hour:                   0      0
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #297 on: May 16, 2015, 07:57:19 PM »

newt you swapped modems again?
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #298 on: May 16, 2015, 08:49:09 PM »

newt you swapped modems again?

Yes i did would this cause any extra issue on my line ?

the BB2 was reporting false stats saying the line was on fastpath yes it is but only on the upstream.
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Re: G.INP - BT rollout 2015.
« Reply #299 on: May 16, 2015, 09:21:59 PM »

I am always on the belief one should go for as high uptime as possible, so I think you doing yourself no favours with the swapping in and out, I suggest to leave it alone now.
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