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Author Topic: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.  (Read 86200 times)

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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #120 on: January 28, 2015, 12:29:31 AM »

I had 2 resyncs yesterday afternoon, currently no idea what caused them,, but I dont appear to be on a new DLM profile, was close to 100 days uptime, shame. Given both were within 10 mins of each other I suspect an engineer at the cab.

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My US snrm has dropped a bit so I wonder if was the DSLAM enforcing a new UPBO.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2015, 12:31:47 AM by Chrysalis »
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #121 on: January 28, 2015, 12:53:03 AM »

I had 2 resyncs yesterday afternoon, currently no idea what caused them,,

Odd it looks like a retrain reason 0 which is what you get when you turn off the modem for 30 minutes and then on again LOS: Loss of Service and only see 1 resync on MDWS at 16:16 27/1/2015  :-\
« Last Edit: January 28, 2015, 12:57:40 AM by NewtronStar »
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #122 on: January 28, 2015, 02:06:43 AM »

it might have only been 1 but I had 2 email alerts from the site.
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #123 on: January 29, 2015, 11:58:00 AM »

to check when I think my line was on G.INP, check on MDWS my username for first week of sept when I had low attianable before my fault was fixed, I Was on fast path on the DS with FEC enabled.
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #124 on: January 31, 2015, 07:08:31 PM »

To my knowlage my connection when on fastpath (90%+ ) of the time has always had FEC enabled on the upstream only
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #125 on: February 07, 2015, 05:27:34 PM »

Seems it has kicked in on my connection now. I was always on fast path before, my pings seem unaffected (Please not my first hop has always been high as its the plusnet gateway in London and I am in north Wales so the first hop is actually most of the country.

This is on a HG612 unlocked using H-Wolfs build.

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xdslcmd info --stats

xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status

Status: Showtime

Retrain Reason:   1

Last initialization procedure status:   0

Max:   Upstream rate = 38593 Kbps, Downstream rate = 103048 Kbps

Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps

Bearer:   1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps

Link Power State:   L0

Mode:         VDSL2 Annex B

VDSL2 Profile:      Profile 17a

TPS-TC:         PTM Mode(0x0)

Trellis:      U:ON /D:ON

Line Status:      No Defect

Training Status:   Showtime

      Down      Up

SNR (dB):    12.3       17.9

Attn(dB):    12.3       0.0

Pwr(dBm):    13.6       1.9

         VDSL2 framing

         Bearer 0

MSGc:      -6      -6

B:      130      97

M:      1      1

T:      0      0

R:      8      8

S:      0.0518      0.1554

L:      21468      5457

D:      16      8

I:      139      106

N:      139      106

Q:      16      8

V:      14      2

RxQueue:      60      39

TxQueue:      20      13

G.INP Framing:      18      18

G.INP lookback:      20      13


RRC bits:      24      24

         Bearer 1

MSGc:      186      58

B:      0      0

M:      2      2

T:      2      2

R:      16      16

S:      5.3333      16.0000

L:      48      16

D:      3      1

I:      32      32

N:      32      32

Q:      0      0

V:      0      0

RxQueue:      0      0

TxQueue:      0      0

G.INP Framing:      0      0

G.INP lookback:      0      0

RRC bits:      0      0

         Counters

         Bearer 0

OHF:      0      0

OHFErr:      0      0

RS:      2734095472      528284

RSCorr:      24893      6707

RSUnCorr:   0      0

         Bearer 1

OHF:      47402272      401648

OHFErr:      0      0

RS:      568826521      1371711

RSCorr:      3      6

RSUnCorr:   0      0



         Retransmit Counters

rtx_tx:      1326      138

rtx_c:      1185      125

rtx_uc:      0      0



         G.INP Counters

LEFTRS:      9      2

minEFTR:   79999      19997

errFreeBits:   929025460      232226050




         Bearer 0

HEC:      0      0

OCD:      0      0

LCD:      0      0

Total Cells:   1173293021      0

Data Cells:   4255707463      0

Drop Cells:   0

Bit Errors:   0      0



         Bearer 1

HEC:      0      0

OCD:      0      0

LCD:      0      0

Total Cells:   0      0

Data Cells:   0      0

Drop Cells:   0

Bit Errors:   0      0



ES:      1135      97

SES:      22      0

UAS:      328      306

AS:      761402



         Bearer 0

INP:      48.00      47.00

INPRein:   0.00      0.00

delay:      0      0

PER:      0.00      0.00

OR:      0.01      0.01

AgR:      80614.82   20102.08



         Bearer 1

INP:      4.00      4.00

INPRein:   4.00      4.00

delay:      3      0

PER:      16.06      16.06

OR:      95.62      31.87

AgR:      95.62   31.87



Bitswap:   570441/570442      632/634



Total time = 1 days 28 min 47 sec

FEC:      24893      6707

CRC:      0      0

ES:      1135      97

SES:      22      0

UAS:      328      306

LOS:      2      0

LOF:      19      0

LOM:      0      0

Latest 15 minutes time = 13 min 47 sec

FEC:      24      0

CRC:      0      0

ES:      0      0

SES:      0      0

UAS:      0      0

LOS:      0      0

LOF:      0      0

LOM:      0      0

Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec

FEC:      30      2

CRC:      0      0

ES:      0      0

SES:      0      0

UAS:      0      0

LOS:      0      0

LOF:      0      0

LOM:      0      0

Latest 1 day time = 28 min 47 sec

FEC:      54      2

CRC:      0      0

ES:      0      0

SES:      0      0

UAS:      0      0

LOS:      0      0

LOF:      0      0

LOM:      0      0

Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec

FEC:      2558      142

CRC:      0      0

ES:      0      0

SES:      0      0

UAS:      0      0

LOS:      0      0

LOF:      0      0

LOM:      0      0

Since Link time = 8 days 19 hours 30 min 1 sec

FEC:      24893      6707

CRC:      0      0

ES:      0      0

SES:      0      0

UAS:      0      0

LOS:      0      0

LOF:      0      0

LOM:      0      0



HELLO HG612
xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:   1
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:   Upstream rate = 38593 Kbps, Downstream rate = 103048 Kbps
Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer:   1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3959)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3959)
     VDSL Port Details        Upstream        Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:       38593 kbps         103048 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:          1.9 dBm           13.6 dBm
====================================================================================
  VDSL Band Status    U0    U1    U2    U3    U4    D1    D2    D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):    4.6    15.0    20.4     N/A     N/A    7.6    17.6    26.0   
Signal Attenuation(dB):    4.6    14.1    19.5     N/A     N/A    9.5    17.4    26.0   
   SNR Margin(dB):    18.0    17.9    17.9     N/A     N/A    12.3    12.3    12.3   
    TX Power(dBm):   -12.3   -28.6    1.8     N/A     N/A    10.8    7.8    6.9   

Good Bye HG612

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C:\Users\>tracert google.co.uk

Tracing route to google.co.uk [216.58.210.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  router.asus.com
  2    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  lo0.10.Central10.ptw-bng02.plus.net [195.166.130
.203]
  3    20 ms    16 ms    15 ms  irb.10.PTW-CR02.plus.net [84.93.249.2]
  4    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  72.14.223.32
  5    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  209.85.252.188
  6    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  72.14.238.21
  7    16 ms    17 ms    16 ms  lhr14s23-in-f3.1e100.net [216.58.210.35]

Trace complete.
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #126 on: February 07, 2015, 08:34:03 PM »

yeah new g.inp fields get added, it be nice if the modem stats tool can be updated to look for these values.
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #127 on: February 07, 2015, 11:50:58 PM »

yeah new g.inp fields get added, it be nice if the modem stats tool can be updated to look for these values.

once HG612_Modem_stats crashes then you will know G.INP is active on your line ::)
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #128 on: February 08, 2015, 12:54:29 AM »

newt get a DLM reset and I bet you get g.inp instead of normal interleaving :)
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #129 on: February 08, 2015, 01:01:39 AM »

I'm hoping to get G.INP once I get up to the top of the long ladder my connection's in at the moment. 49Mbps cap at INP 7 with a maximum delay of 16ms (actual 11ms) on downstream, but about two days ago DLM made a positive change for the first time in a while since unplugging the ASUS. It was INP 8 with a 44Mbps cap before the positive change.

Currently using the Fritz!Box 7490 which is working quite nicely. Also reports whether G.INP is active or not via the web UI, and I've just found out how to get more detailed stats from telnet earlier this evening (if curious then see here for the output and some graphs I made for QLN and such). I doubt I'll be returning to the ASUS and will probably keep that in storage.
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #130 on: February 08, 2015, 01:13:54 AM »

newt get a DLM reset and I bet you get g.inp instead of normal interleaving :)

I am flipping trying my best mate have an open case being looked into by openreach at least the voice interference has been noted by the ISP operator  :fingers:
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #131 on: February 08, 2015, 06:28:04 PM »

Seems it has kicked in on my connection now. I was always on fast path before, my pings seem unaffected (Please not my first hop has always been high as its the plusnet gateway in London and I am in north Wales so the first hop is actually most of the country.

This is on a HG612 unlocked using H-Wolfs build.

Do you have any equivalent output (--stats and --pbParams) from before G.INP kicked in? It'd be educational to compare them...
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #132 on: February 08, 2015, 06:48:08 PM »

Hi unfortunately this is all i could find, Its the graphs and modem stats log. Unfortunately i don't have a Plink log or equivalent from before (i must have deleted them)

https://mega.co.nz/#!HU9S0LrR!BpIR_xRbAbVGjUzx4jIciXm_ZUEILlR3FJK9kQpNDE4 (5.4MB)
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #133 on: February 08, 2015, 08:27:59 PM »

Thanks.

I'll try to work through them with a copy of the spec, and see what I can work out!
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Re: BT nationwide rolling out G.INP/PhyR and changes to DLM.
« Reply #134 on: March 04, 2015, 08:18:06 AM »

I had a resync last night and I'm now seeing INP at 5 (from 3), and interleave depth is at 973, opposed to 509 yesterday.

However, I'm now syncing just over 3000kbps higher with a higher snr margin  :-\

Yesterday - (When I last checked about 3pm) Sync - 35248kbps, SNR hanging around 3.2

Today - 38464kbps, SNR 5.7. Max attainable has jumped up to 42628kbps too

I know I need to setup 24/7 monitoring to see what's going on with my line properly it's just getting round to setting it all up  ;D

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xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 7035 Kbps, Downstream rate = 42628 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 7040 Kbps, Downstream rate = 38464 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 5.7 6.0
Attn(dB): 0.0 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.0 3.6

----- SNIP -------------

INP: 5.00 0.00
PER: 2.92 16.21
delay: 16.00 0.00
OR: 65.55 19.24


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