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Author Topic: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL  (Read 150036 times)

Colsey85

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #300 on: April 21, 2015, 12:48:01 AM »

Anyway here are my stats from 5 days of use:

Not to bad for a 3.4km line lets take your errored second total over 5 days 2841 we divide by 5 and that will give you 568 ES per day then we divide by 24 to get ES per hour = 23.6 it's ok

Thankyou very much for that, I was worried :)
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #301 on: May 08, 2015, 07:51:05 PM »

Hello guys, recently got an 8800nl.

Having slow wireless performance, I have a powerline wireless setup and that seems to get 20mbps and the 8800nl gets 11.30.

Unsure as to why, are there any settings I should be aware of or are there any ways to improve the wireless itself?

Or should I consider a different router? Cheers.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #302 on: June 21, 2015, 08:10:10 PM »

Just had a surprise - my cab has gone live rather earlier than expected
Given that I don't need fancy wireless or gigabit network is there any real reason why I shouldn't get one of these on order as soon as I have screwed the best deal out of Plusnet tomorrow (note I am in the middle of a 24 month contract so suggestions about different suppliers aren't possible)
This is the estimate
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #303 on: June 21, 2015, 08:22:01 PM »

Go for it, Jim, its a really good bit of kit and an absolute bargain at around £60. I've tested some other VDSL kit, and the 8800NL has proved to be the best on my long'ish line. It was also the best out of over 100 different ADSL combos I've tested over the years.
Only exceeded in value-for-money by a similarly-performing ZTE H168N (but which is not as good re stats harvesting).
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #304 on: June 23, 2015, 11:49:00 PM »

Can you use the 8800NL in bridge mode with another router?
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #305 on: June 24, 2015, 06:42:40 AM »

@AlecR

Its WAN configuration page has 3 settings for PTM:
           PPPoE over Ethernet (PPPoE)
           IP over Ethernet
           Bridging          (what you were asking about)

I've only used the PPPoE - its own router functions are really very good..
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #306 on: June 24, 2015, 11:46:57 PM »

How does it perform on so-called long lines (mine is 750-800 metres)?
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #307 on: June 25, 2015, 08:02:05 AM »

My line is around 1100m. On ADSL1 and ADSL2 (where the line length was 5+km) the 8800 performed, overall, the best of all the very many combos I've tried. Easily the best stability and error-coping - I never observed any sign of bit-loading decay.  It wasn't quite the fastest, being only slightly exceeded by DG834GT with DGTeam firmware, but within a few days the DG834 would have suffered bit-loading decay and its max attainable rate dropped below the 8800's. Its wifi isn't outstanding, but was adequate if I ever needed to use it.

On VDSL2, it has been the best of around 5 tested. Highest sync rate, equal best stability and error rates  (with ZTE H168N), no bit-loading decay, and I actually found some bit-loading growth a few times. Works well with DSLstats. I've tried all the issued firmwares, but have stuck with the original 2.32d.dm2
I'm on the Plusnet 40M package and get a max achievable of around 45000 and a bearer rate of around 39000 with interleaving at 754.......the interleaving has eliminated the periodic very high CRC rates - most probably electric-fence-affected - that I used to experience with ADSL and days 1&2 of VDSL.....5 stars for VDSL DLM!

Reading about other folk's experiences with other more expensive combos, but not having ventured into the higher-cost arena myself, the 8800NL would seem to be very hard to beat...I thoroughly recommend giving it a try.  I  don't know about other lines, but on mine, and with my simple requirements of best speed, good error handling, stability and consistency, it would seem the tops!  I've not explored its wealth of other features, having no need at present.

Very highly recommended!!!
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #308 on: June 25, 2015, 08:17:34 AM »

Would I see any improvement in performance, changing from a HG612 to  8800NL & using it in  PPPoE bridge mode with a Asus
RT-N66U?
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #309 on: June 25, 2015, 08:33:11 AM »

On my line, an unlocked HG612 gave  downstream rates  that were 10% down on the 8800 on the 2 occasions I tried it, and I did not proceed further with a comparison - back to the Billion within an hour!  I've kept the HG612 as a secondary backup - my main backup being the ZTE H168N.

With the 8800, I use a Netgear WGR614 as a wifi router when wifi is needed - tho the 8800 will reach all parts of the house - I just like the separation and easy-turn-ff-when-not-needed. So your scenario should be fine.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #310 on: June 25, 2015, 09:00:56 AM »

On reflection, I need to add that a 'better' router is unlikely to solve broadband problems per se. If you already have a 'good' line and 'good' home phone wiring and a well-setup computer etc, then you may well see  benefits from a better modem/router. But getting those precursors right is the most important!

Of the several-hundred calls I've attended  (I'm retired and it is a hobby), being described to me as 'broadband problems', I find the causes to be (roughly):
1. Computer short of RAM                     15%
2. Infected computer                              10%
3. House phone wiring  quality/arrangement       50%
4. ISP-related issue                                10%
5. Line/Exchange fault                            10%
6. Faulty/problematic/poor modem/router   5%
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #311 on: June 25, 2015, 08:30:56 PM »

Sorry thread Hi-Jacking time :D

Who has the 8800NL setup with IPv6 on the LAN side running DHCP6? Can you help as I cannot for the life of me get DHCP6 running properly and it's driving me nuts.

I have the WAN connection using IPV6 all fine, however the IPv6 on he LAN side using DHCP6 is not working.

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #312 on: June 25, 2015, 09:04:41 PM »

azzaka I just checked the ipv6 lan config page.

IPv6 LAN Applications

make sure the issue router advertisements is ticked.

also is this box populated? "Interface Address / Prefix Length"
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #313 on: June 26, 2015, 10:31:09 AM »

EDIT:~

The LAN is now issuing the Address correctly, however it does not appear to be passing it across.

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #314 on: July 17, 2015, 06:41:42 PM »

I've joined the 8800NL party! :)
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