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Author Topic: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL  (Read 146248 times)

Woppy101

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #240 on: January 23, 2015, 03:35:18 PM »

Can someone have a look at my stats and tell me if I have anything to worry about, up time is 24 hrs

Status   
xDSL
xDSL
Mode   VDSL2
Traffic Type   PTM
Status   Up
Link Power State   L0
Downstream   Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis)   On   On
SNR Margin (dB)   6.3   9.4
Attenuation (dB)   16.8   0.0
Output Power (dBm)   13.4   6.0
Attainable Rate (Kbps)   90865   25706
Rate (Kbps)   75411   20000
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame)   51   236
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword)   1   1
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame)   64   5
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword)   12   16
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans)   0.0219   0.3771
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol)   23336   5410
D (interleaver depth)   1475   1
I (interleaver block size in bytes)   64   255
N (RS codeword size)   64   255
Delay (msec)   8   0
INP (DMT symbol)   3.00   0.00
OH Frames   56738197   12957082
OH Frame Errors   103   2
RS Words   1639896656   2389635
RS Correctable Errors   508614   96
RS Uncorrectable Errors   11315   0
HEC Errors   2973   0
OCD Errors   2   0
LCD Errors   2   0
Total Cells   3009094680   0
Data Cells   799597784   0
Bit Errors   0   0
Total ES   15   2
Total SES   0   0
Total UAS   27   27
   
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adslmax

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #241 on: January 23, 2015, 04:12:06 PM »

Your sync rate reduced caused by DLM interleaved ON INP 3.00 (Leave it on for at least 2 weeks) the DLM should removed interleaved and put your back on 79.9Mbps as long the line is stable with less errors.

Here is mine below (ongoing for 57D 17H 57M 0S):

xDSL
Mode   VDSL2
Traffic Type    PTM
Status    Up
Link Power State    L0
   Downstream   Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis)   On   On
SNR Margin (dB)   8.9   14.7
Attenuation (dB)   11.3   0.0
Output Power (dBm)   12.4   -1.2
Attainable Rate (Kbps)   90222   32146
Rate (Kbps)   79987   19999
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame)   239   237
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword)   1   1
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame)   23   42
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword)   0   16
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans)   0.0955   0.3781
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol)   20104   5374
D (interleaver depth)   1   1
I (interleaver block size in bytes)   240   127
N (RS codeword size)   240   254
Delay (msec)   0   0
INP (DMT symbol)   0.00   0.00
OH Frames   0   0
OH Frame Errors   7776   7929
RS Words   0   4291836
RS Correctable Errors   0   111077
RS Uncorrectable Errors   0   0
HEC Errors   26614   0
OCD Errors   190   0
LCD Errors   190   0
Total Cells   2837270794   0
Data Cells   3573968332   0
Bit Errors   0   0
Total ES   4481   2270
Total SES   0   0
Total UAS   27   27
 
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 04:14:14 PM by adslmax »
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Woppy101

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #242 on: January 23, 2015, 04:24:10 PM »

Your sync rate reduced caused by DLM interleaved ON INP 3.00 (Leave it on for at least 2 weeks) the DLM should removed interleaved and put your back on 79.9Mbps as long the line is stable with less errors.
 

My sync has been between 74-75mb for months, I have wanted interleaving to switch off for ages
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #243 on: January 23, 2015, 04:28:33 PM »

Mine was hit by DLM last year with interleaved ON at INP 3.00 and 2 days later it removed itself! (it was my own fault of swapping over four different modems in the space of 30 minutes) but since then, never get DLM again.
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Woppy101

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #244 on: January 23, 2015, 04:39:09 PM »

Mine was hit by DLM last year with interleaved ON at INP 3.00 and 2 days later it removed itself! (it was my own fault of swapping over four different modems in the space of 30 minutes) but since then, never get DLM again.

Think I might as sky to request a DLM reset
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adslmax

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #245 on: January 23, 2015, 04:46:32 PM »

No, u can't! as all isp's cannot reset DLM (FTTC only) as it ran by BT Openreach, not BTw (as BTw can reset DLM on ADSL2+ by the isp's)

The only way to get DLM reset is sent out engineer as a fault as sometime openreach engineer do reset it at the FTTC cabinet but mostly they don't.
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Woppy101

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #246 on: January 23, 2015, 06:38:29 PM »

No, u can't! as all isp's cannot reset DLM (FTTC only) as it ran by BT Openreach, not BTw (as BTw can reset DLM on ADSL2+ by the isp's)

The only way to get DLM reset is sent out engineer as a fault as sometime openreach engineer do reset it at the FTTC cabinet but mostly they don't.

Great  :no: looks like I'm on interleaved for the rest of time
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Woppy101

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #247 on: January 23, 2015, 06:45:38 PM »

How do I see what items are connected to the router and is there a way I can limit that item to what time I want it to use the Internet ie I daughters laptop?
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Woppy101

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #248 on: January 26, 2015, 06:53:40 AM »

how do  I find out CRC errors? all I have on mine are HEC Errors, OCD Errors and LCD Errors
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #249 on: January 26, 2015, 07:13:42 AM »

These are the same as CRC errors:-

OH Frame Errors   7776   7929
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adslmax

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #250 on: January 26, 2015, 01:41:10 PM »

The stats on billion 8800NL are:

Total ES -> Error seconds (total)
OH Frame Errors -> CRC errors (total)
HEC Errors -> HEC errors (total)
RS Correctable Errors -> FEC errors (total)

Below is my Billion 8800NL full stats (ongoing sync between VDSL modem and VDSL cabinet for 60 days):

http://postimg.org/image/oi5tu8j6r/full/
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Xup

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #251 on: February 02, 2015, 06:45:44 PM »

Hi, First post on here so hello all :)

OK, so fibre has arrived after the 3 year wait!,  install is due on the 9th of this month (750m to cab).
Am I best to leave the BT modem + router for the first 10days?, or straight in with the billion 8800nl.

Think I have a good quiet line, on adsl I have held a 3dB download signal to noise ratio profile for the last 5 years
and could just hold a 4.5-5mb connection on a 4.2k line from my exchange.

Let the light speed internet begin ;)
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #252 on: February 02, 2015, 07:07:28 PM »

Hi and welcome :)

With VDSL2 there's no significance to the first 10 days, so you can do what you want. In my case I chose to use the 8800NL right from the start, as I didn't want the ECI modem which the installer had with him. That's probably not the best idea - I suggest that you let the installer get the connection working with the standard modem + router so you have one known functional setup, and swap over later if you want to.

Don't swap too often, and when you do it's best to leave a half-hour-plus gap between switching off one modem and switching on the other. This ensures that DLM doesn't count it as a resync.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #253 on: February 02, 2015, 07:33:58 PM »

Don't swap too often, and when you do it's best to leave a half-hour-plus gap between switching off one modem and switching on the other. This ensures that DLM doesn't count it as a resync.

^^ This have caused me DLM when I swapped over from modem to Billion as I didn't aware of first 30 minutes to avoid any DLM trigger. So, Roseway is correct there.

On your day of installation, let the engineer set up with ECI Openreach Modem plus your router and when the engineer have left. You can switch off for at least 30 minutes then put Billion 8800NL as it far better than the two devices.
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Xup

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #254 on: February 02, 2015, 09:45:05 PM »

Cheers for the replies/info you two.
Am I right in thinking no DLM will hit till at least the day after the install, so safe to swap to the Billion later on the install day.

Gone with PN 40/20 (new 2704m router has arrived)
« Last Edit: February 02, 2015, 09:47:28 PM by Xup »
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