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KPG

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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #165 on: June 12, 2020, 10:28:20 AM »

Hello everyone.

I'm new here and it seems like the perfect place to come to for advice.

I am looking to buy a combined modem-router as a backup. My existing model (TP-Link Archer VR900) has been fine so far - I've had it running for about two months since switching to FTTC broadband - but there have been a couple of dropouts recently and I would like to have a different model on standby.

I've checked reviews online but as you know they vary wildly and combined models don't seem to be especially common. My ISP has recommended ZyXel and Billion to me in the past but I have never used any brand other than TP-Link so I'm in the dark there.

I am not technically minded, so layman's terms would be much appreciated.
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #166 on: June 12, 2020, 12:05:42 PM »

Hi,

Welcome to the forum.

Zyxel modem/routers are indeed very well respected by the patrons here, I have 2 old Billion models in operation on my son's and daughter's VDSL lines also which perform without any issues, that's the 8800NLr1 and 8800NLr2 respectively, both old models now and probably difficult to source, the r1 version being the better respected model.
I changed these out from the ISP's supplied units in order to run the DSLStats utility and keep an eye on their lines performances remotely.

I picked up a Zyxel VMG3925-B10B modem/router a few weeks ago on e-bay for 30 + P&P, advertised as brand new and unbranded, this indeed turned out to be the case, very pleased with the purchase, currently in use on my line in router only mode.
There are quite a few of this model still on e-bay at good prices, just make sure that they are not locked to an ISP as it takes a bit of tech. knowledge to unlock the units, in worst cases requiring case opening and establishing a serial connection, this would likely be beyond your cumfort zone.
The VMG3925-B10B was supplied by a number of UK and Irish ISP's so there are quite a lot still around some indeed brand new as many customers opted to retain their own devices when changing ISP's but obviously took the offers of free supplied kit at sign up.

As a bonus, if you should ever get the urge/have the requirement  to monitor or record your line stat's the Broadcom chipset used by Zyxel permits access via various means with readily available utilities as indeed do the Billion modem/routers mentioned.
Not sure if this facility is available on your current TP-Link modem/router, ie. uses a Broadcom chipset.
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #167 on: June 12, 2020, 01:50:56 PM »

Thanks very much for that. Time to get on eBay. One problem I may encounter is that my rather ageing Dell desktop PC, which I use for work, doesn't support wifi. The other devices in the house - laptops, phones, tablet - will be happy enough with a wireless modem-router, but I need a physical ethernet connection to the PC (which I do intend to replace, but one thing at a time). Am I right in thinking the Billion models are wireless only?

I believe my TP-Link does have a Broadcom chipset. At any rate my ISP has previously been able to monitor the line stats.

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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #168 on: June 12, 2020, 02:45:34 PM »

Thanks very much for that. Time to get on eBay. One problem I may encounter is that my rather ageing Dell desktop PC, which I use for work, doesn't support wifi. The other devices in the house - laptops, phones, tablet - will be happy enough with a wireless modem-router, but I need a physical ethernet connection to the PC (which I do intend to replace, but one thing at a time). Am I right in thinking the Billion models are wireless only?

I believe my TP-Link does have a Broadcom chipset. At any rate my ISP has previously been able to monitor the line stats.

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Am I right in thinking the Billion models are wireless only?
No, have never seen any router, modem/router that did not have 4 LAN ports, some have a WAN port also to facilitate usage in bridge mode or use with a cable system, this is the case with the Zyxel VMG3925-B10B, all ports being Gb.speed capable, from memory, the Billion 8800NLr1 has only one Gb. ethernet port (+ 3 X 10/100 ports), the 8800NLr2 has 10/100 Gb. ethernet ports only.
The Billion models have 2.4 Gb. Wi-Fi only, the Zyxel unit have 2.4 and 5 Gb. Wi-Fi.

Ethernet, cable connection to your desktop PC is preferable in my opinion, no worries with not having Wi-Fi on your PC, I don't either.

The Zyxel's Wi-Fi performance is not supposed to be exceptional by any means, I have not had any issues so far, only using 2.4 Gb, no 5 Gb. devices currently on hand.

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I believe my TP-Link does have a Broadcom chipset. At any rate my ISP has previously been able to monitor the line stats
Your ISP will have access to sophisticated server based diagnostics for line monitoring regardless of your modem model, local access to your modem to harvest line stats is a different concept which is subject to access permissions and chipset technology.
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #169 on: June 12, 2020, 04:49:13 PM »

Appreciate the info.

I always assumed that ethernet was better for speeds and stability, but of course it may not be practical for everybody.
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Re: Combined VDSL2 Modem Routers
« Reply #170 on: June 12, 2020, 07:42:28 PM »

Appreciate the info.

I always assumed that ethernet was better for speeds and stability, but of course it may not be practical for everybody.

Absolutely, I thought that's what I just said, apologies if my narrative was not clear.
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