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[custard]

Its abit difficult to see if bitloading has been reduced where SNRM drops in the compressed graph.

Can you take some more snapshots using the expand function around the SNRM drops in D2 and D3.

Examples of mine compressed and expanded in D1 are attached

Can you also provide the hlog for completeness.

[perry081064]

Its abit difficult to see if bitloading has been reduced where SNRM drops in the compressed graph.

Can you take some more snapshots using the expand function around the SNRM drops in D2 and D3.

Examples of mine compressed and expanded in D1 are attached

Can you also provide the hlog for completeness.

Hi Custard , hope these are what you require, ive expanded the entire graph as best i can ..

[perry081064]

The bit loading looks good and as there is no deficit where the SNRM shows those downward spikes, I'll say that there is nothing to be concerned about.

Cross-referencing the dual-graph with that of the QLN, some posts above, reinforces that opinion. 

Hi Burakkucat

based on info and graphs supplied , would you say theres a possiblity that my interleave will be reduced or knocked off ?
...im hoping to regain my speed of 59 down 17 up that i used to have .

[custard]

HI Perry.

Sorry you seem to have shown the wrong areas in the graphs. I Was looking for tones 3000-3900 in D3 and possibly tones 1300-1800 in D2.
Try to take these when your overall SNRM drops.

For the HLog leave the image collapsed so that all the tones show in the graph.

Once you have a few days of data you may be able to detect when the RFI/REIN occurs by checking your SNRM per band.

Lastly you might want to upgrade to the latest firmware. Peeps on here are reporting that it works better at bitswapping on noisy lines.
Nb: your line does not so much noise compared to some of the longer lines!

[burakkucat]

based on info and graphs supplied , would you say theres a possiblity that my interleave will be reduced or knocked off ?

That is the question, isn't it! 

Unfortunately I can't answer it. If the circuit is "well behaved" and stable, there is the possibility that the depth of the interleaving will be reduced, step-wise. It might be worthwhile posting the pbParams data for a number of successive days and then Bald Eagle1 may be able to offer an opinion . . . 

[perry081064]

based on info and graphs supplied , would you say theres a possiblity that my interleave will be reduced or knocked off ?

That is the question, isn't it! 

Unfortunately I can't answer it. If the circuit is "well behaved" and stable, there is the possibility that the depth of the interleaving will be reduced, step-wise. It might be worthwhile posting the pbParams data for a number of successive days and then Bald Eagle1 may be able to offer an opinion . . . 

that would be great thanks

this is the first pbParams from 4 days ago..

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xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 22195 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58488 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 50851 Kbps

Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195) (1984,2771)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959) (2792,4083)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195) (1984,2771)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959) (2792,4083)
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream        Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:      22195 kbps         58488 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:        6.4 dBm          13.0 dBm
============================================================================
  VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
  Line Attenuation(dB): 1.0 24.3 38.1 N/A 12.8 31.9 50.7
Signal Attenuation(dB): 1.0 24.1 38.0 N/A 12.8 31.9 50.7
        SNR Margin(dB): 6.5 6.8 6.4 N/A 6.1 6.1 6.1
         TX Power(dBm): -5.1 -20.7 6.0 N/A 9.5 7.4 7.3
#
and this one from almost 5 days on ( today)..

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xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 21920 Kbps, Downstream rate = 60360 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 50851 Kbps

Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195) (1984,2771)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959) (2792,4083)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195) (1984,2771)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959) (2792,4083)
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream        Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:      21920 kbps         60360 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:        6.4 dBm          13.0 dBm
============================================================================
  VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
  Line Attenuation(dB): 1.0 24.3 38.1 N/A 12.8 31.9 50.7
Signal Attenuation(dB): 1.0 24.1 38.0 N/A 12.8 31.9 50.7
        SNR Margin(dB): 6.1 6.4 6.3 N/A 6.6 6.7 6.6
         TX Power(dBm): -5.1 -20.7 6.0 N/A 9.5 7.4 7.3
#
hope this helps

[burakkucat]

  Oops, b*cat has committed a folly. 

I should have asked you for the Connection Stats, from under the Telnet Data tab in DSLstats and not the pbParams.

(Now where is that Analytical Eagle? Methinks it is best to keep my tail tucked inside this brown paper bag, to avoid any spurious tail pecks.)

[HighBeta]

Or a bank hoilday migrate to warmer climates away from troublesome kittens 

Perry do you have any white extension cable (cw1308) into the NTE5 ?

Custards makes a great point on wiring.

Hows your internal phone wiring and extensions?

[perry081064]

  Oops, b*cat has committed a folly. 

I should have asked you for the Connection Stats, from under the Telnet Data tab in DSLstats and not the pbParams.

(Now where is that Analytical Eagle? Methinks it is best to keep my tail tucked inside this brown paper bag, to avoid any spurious tail pecks.)

no probs , here you go

... just before posting this there was a massive drop in down SNRM from 6.8 to 5.9 , also a drop in max downstream rate to 57552.
..not sure whats caused that 

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xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 21906 Kbps, Downstream rate = 57788 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 50851 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 5.9 6.3
Attn(dB): 0.0 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.9 6.4
VDSL2 framing
Path 0
B: 51 236
M: 1 1
T: 64 5
R: 12 16
S: 0.0325 0.3771
L: 15736 5410
D: 995 1
I: 64 255
N: 64 255
Counters
Path 0
OHF: 209823215 398268
OHFErr: 121 876
RS: 2175014138 1279253
RSCorr: 1726808 10947
RSUnCorr: 2030 0

Path 0
HEC: 353 0
OCD: 14 0
LCD: 14 0
Total Cells: 4232872255 0
Data Cells: 785660426 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 42 676
SES: 0 0
UAS: 18 18
AS: 438646

Path 0
INP: 3.00 0.00
PER: 2.08 6.12
delay: 8.00 0.00
OR: 92.20 203.67

Bitswap: 112359 23204

Total time = 1 days 1 hours 51 min 14 sec
FEC: 1726808 10947
CRC: 121 876
ES: 42 676
SES: 0 0
UAS: 18 18
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 6 min 14 sec
FEC: 5302 3
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 2401 1
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 1 hours 51 min 14 sec
FEC: 29018 89
CRC: 5 15
ES: 1 14
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 483533 3332
CRC: 19 190
ES: 7 153
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
Since Link time = 5 days 1 hours 50 min 47 sec
FEC: 1726808 10947
CRC: 121 876
ES: 42 676
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
#

[perry081064]

Or a bank hoilday migrate to warmer climates away from troublesome kittens 

Perry do you have any white extension cable (cw1308) into the NTE5 ?

Custards makes a great point on wiring.

Hows your internal phone wiring and extensions?

none whatsoever , phone and modem direct to the box

[custard]

... just before posting this there was a massive drop in down SNRM from 6.8 to 5.9 , also a drop in max downstream rate to 57552.
..not sure whats caused that 

This would be the time to get that bitloading/SNRM data while the SNRM has dropped!

[perry081064]

... just before posting this there was a massive drop in down SNRM from 6.8 to 5.9 , also a drop in max downstream rate to 57552.
..not sure whats caused that 

This would be the time to get that bitloading/SNRM data while the SNRM has dropped!

hope these are what you need...

[custard]

  I think I need some spectacles!!

Looking at that I don't think that those spikes would cause you to lose so much speed as you haven't lost bitloading on too many tones.

If your SNRM is dropping about 6pm and then rising again at 10pm everyday then this might just be normal variation. This will be apparent once you have stats over a few days.

Did any electrical appliances get switched on at the time when your SNRM reduced.

[perry081064]

I think I need some spectacles!!

Looking at that I don't think that those spikes would cause you to lose so much speed as you haven't lost bitloading on too many tones.

If your SNRM is dropping about 6pm and then rising again at 10pm everyday then this might just be normal variation. This will be apparent once you have stats over a few days.

Did any electrical appliances get switched on at the time when your SNRM reduced.

shouldve gone to specsavers .... lol just kidding 

i remember putting the gas boiler on for the hot water around that time, i thought of that , but no change after i knocked it off.
...shame becouse it was holding at 6.8 for the last 2 days 

[Bald_Eagle1]

Or a bank hoilday migrate to warmer climates away from troublesome kittens 

Migrated to the garden today for the first time this year.

The grass was knee high.
Cutting through that lot certainly kept me warm (spurious tail pecking was the last thing on my mind) & there's still a lot more to cut tomorrow.