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NewtronStar

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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2014, 06:36:08 PM »

It seems it is 160m band radio interference. Are those tones always missing?

The tones are inplace during the afternoon but 1 hour before sunset they start to go missing one by one until a large chunk of tones has gone and they will start to appear very slowly after 01:00 and by 12 noon they are all back again.
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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2014, 06:51:46 PM »

Therefore, I'm almost sure someone broadcast radio in 160m band.
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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2014, 07:16:06 PM »

Therefore, I'm almost sure someone broadcast radio in 160m band.

Yes it seems to be ! but how or why are these RFI signals getting inside my modem and I can say 100% that there wasn't any RFI in June 2013 as I have graphs going all the way back to August 2012 (HG612 Modem Unlock day) I remember it well  ;D
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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2014, 07:25:44 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2014, 07:57:24 PM »

^^ :lol:
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NewtronStar

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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2014, 08:21:37 PM »

It is worth reading.
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/rein.htm

Yes it is as four to six months ago I had terrible FEC errors 100,000 + per min and I found two culprits when setting the Radio Scanner to 512Khz what I found was the TP-LINK power adapters was causing 70% of REIN and and old Sony FreeView BOX (Digital TV) was causing 28% of REIN.
after removing those devices my FEC's never go above 14000 per min on a bad day.

thats my REIN fixed and my RFI is a different story   :(
« Last Edit: April 23, 2014, 08:26:02 PM by NewtronStar »
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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2014, 08:58:45 AM »

NewtronStar: serach if someone broadcast 40m amateur radio.
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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2014, 10:15:59 AM »

I suggest you should consider the problems as Crosstalk, not (external) RFI. In particular, even-order intermodulation at the exchange, would produce tone-like spectral lines at higher, near harmonic, frequencies. This would explain a mask blocking off these frequencies.

Listening with a receiver would show the difference between RFI and Crosstalk, a system designed round xDSL won't; (if you can't find any spectral lines at all, then interference only exists in the xDSL system so must be crosstalk ! )


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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2014, 06:29:55 PM »

Wondering how crosstalk can be in sync with the Sun set times ? IE: sunset in December is at 15:58 here tones go missing and in April the tones go missing 4 hours later, sounds like radio propagation to me or street lighting.
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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2014, 06:41:25 PM »

Wondering how crostallk can be related to 1650-1750 tone.
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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2014, 01:11:34 AM »

kitz and burakkucat: I hope my reply #38 has not missed.
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Re: Curious paper
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2014, 11:51:30 AM »

kitz and burakkucat: I hope my reply #38 has not missed.

We're back in the land of tiny measurements that make no overall difference.
The short answer...  I dont know :(
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