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Author Topic: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination  (Read 7086 times)

bhawkes

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OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« on: March 22, 2014, 03:09:36 PM »

I have reverted to using the OR modem and my Fritz!Box as router only. I have been using Fritz!Box as combined modem/router.

I have successfully flashed the OR with Howlingwolf's experimental version (with btagent) using the IP address of the modem as 198.168.1.1.

Modem and router are working fine. Now to collect stats. What is my Modem IP address?
The Fritz!Box, has an address of 192.168.178.1 and connected equipment have addresses in the range of 192.168.178.20 - 192.168.178.100. I have tried setting the Modem address in the Stats program as 192.168.1.1 but can obtain no data.

I have OR Lan1 to Fritz Lan1 and OR Lan2 to Fritz Lan2.

Suggestions please.
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les-70

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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014, 03:44:56 PM »

  You either need to change the subnet of the router to 192.168.1.n or the modem to 192.168.178.n. To change the modem you will need to be set up as you were when flashing e.g. nic on 192.168.1.100 but on Lan2.  login on 192.168.1.1 and goto basic -  lan and change the IP and then try with router using the IP that you have set, that IP should be one that does clash with something else 192.168.178.101 might be OK from what you say.
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bhawkes

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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2014, 05:32:29 PM »

Tried to change modem to 192.168.178.101 but it 'locks up' when trying to connect to 192.168.1.1 in order to change it and now can't reflash the modem -go through all the steps - reset, choose file, upgrade software, reload page when it times out, modem reboots but 192.168.1.1 is not then available.
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les-70

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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2014, 05:52:37 PM »

  Not quite sure what you have done.  If you changed the modem IP you won't be able to access the modem unless the ethernet adaptor is also changed e.g. to 192.168.178.100.  You should also be able to access it if the use the router providing DHCP on the 192.168.178.n range.  You need to change the ethernet adaptor back to dhcp if your using dhcp from the router.

  On reflashing the changed IP that you set will be remembered. To get back to 192.168.1.1 you need to do a long reset.  -- power up the modem and keep it powered up. Then press the reset button for ~10s, it will reboot and then have the default IP of 192.168.1.1. 
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bhawkes

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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014, 06:12:39 PM »

Are you sure about the hard reset? If I press the reset with the modem powered on nothing happens after 10 secs - no reboot - nothing.  In previous successful flashings I have depressed the reset and then powered on with the reset continued to be held in for 10 secs. Following this I can connect to 192.168.1.1 and go through the usual flash procedure., only this time after eventually rebooting I cannot access the modem on 192.168.1.1.

I don't think the address was successfully changed to 192.168.178.101 because it locked-up saying it wss trying to connect to 192.168.1.1 which it obviously couldn't. I appear to have bricked the OR.
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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 09:54:20 PM »

   After a hard reset it usually reboots once the button press is stopped.   Try a longer press and make sure it really is depressed continuously for that time. 

   I am also still puzzled by "I don't think the address was successfully changed to 192.168.178.101 because it locked-up saying it was trying to connect to 192.168.1.1 which it obviously couldn't."

  Once the address was changed that was probably the correct response until you changed the Ethernet adapter to the new subnet and then tried connecting to 168.192.178.100.

   (Some browsers seem to look in the their cache and give odd responses when things change so clearing the cache or using e.g. chrome "incognito" may help if that is the issue)
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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2014, 09:35:10 AM »

I'd agree with those comments, Les.

I monitor a remote connection using a HG612 that started off with the default IP address of 192.168.1.1, with The PC's NIC set at 192.168.1.100

I changed the HG612's IP Address to 10.0.0.9.

I obviously couldn't then access it via the monitoring PC.

Changing the PC's NIC address to 10.0.0.160 then restored access, but the browser (I.E.) had to be exited & restarted.

The router still uses 192.168.1.254, so for remote access for monitoring purposes, the PC connects wirelessly to the router using an automatically allocated IP Address & the monitoring PC is directly connected to the HG612 using the HG612's LAN2 port.

The remote user still has normal internet access via the router, but cannot access the HG612's stats etc. as his PC is using an IP Address in the 192.168.1.xxx range.

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bhawkes

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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2014, 04:45:03 PM »

Thanks les-70 and Bald_Eagle1 for your input.

I've come to the conclusion that my spare OR must be faulty. I cannot now reset to the default setting and contact it on 192.168.1.1 (with the Ethernet adapter on 192.168.1.100).

I have purchased another Huwaei HG612 (rev 3B) and will try again to flash. In order to not mess this attempt up can you please confirm the following:-

Having flashed I should then change the LAN on the OR to some setting within the DHCP range of the router which is 192.168.178.2 to 192.168.178.254 and in order then to contact the OR from the PC direct I should set the Ethernet adapter to 192.168.178.100.

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les-70

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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2014, 05:48:11 PM »

  I am not 100% sure of what you mean.  If you set the modem initial 192.168.1.1 IP to 192.168.178.n using the web gui and PC nic set on 192.168.1.100. Once set access will be lost via the nic unless that changed to the same subnet e.g. 192.168.178.100.  Alternatively if the nic is set back to dchp and lan2 and the pc are connnected to router the PC should be able to access the modem via the router.   The new 192.168.178.n value must not clash with probable router DHCP assignments.
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bhawkes

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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2014, 07:51:36 PM »

My main queries are whether the modem IP should be within the DHCP range of the router or outside, and if, bearing in mind the range is 192.168.178.2 to 254 setting the adapter to 192.168.178.100 is correct.
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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2014, 08:48:41 PM »

 The ideal in outside the range but in the same subnet.  In practise it is usually OK within the range provided that address is not assigned.  You could restrict the range of the router eg 192,168.178.2 to 99 to be safe
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bhawkes

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Re: OR modem / Fritz!Box 7390 router combination
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2014, 02:29:14 PM »

Thanks les-70, no problem with the new HG612. Flashed and new IP address, can now access from the router.

Thanks again.  Now to look at some stats but will leave the original BT supplied OR on for a little longer to give it time to settle and its firmware updated from version 028SP06.
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