Well I have had to back off the sync rate SNRM going below 4.9dB @ 30000 kbps this evening now at 28000 kbps with SNRM of 6.3dB, I have done all I can do here to lessen the RFI at my end without success, it's now in the hands of partical physics.
at least I know what is causing the tones to disappear in the evenigs and it may get better as the daylight hours start to stretch in summer time, so if your SNRM drops and you see big chunks missing in your tones during the evenings its all down to Mr Ionosphere
and many thanks for the all help given by Members