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[Black Sheep]

Ha ha, a "Small subset" it may be, but it isn't an exclusive club and anybody from Joe Public can join in. This not only gives you 'share votes' on business agenda's, but also gives you a decent mid to long term return on your cash. Of course, shares can go down as well as up, and this has been well-proven with BT of old, but things are looking all rosy in the garden for the near future. 

[ColinS]

Of course.  Now all I need is someone to explain the benefits of buying back something I used to own, when I got nothing out of the sale in the first place?  Oh no, I did!  I got to keep some rock somewhere in the South Atlantic, but no doubt FTTP will be arriving there any minute!   

[kitz]

It would be nice to let Bald Eagle run the company for a wee while, at least until he got FTTP (oD) installed !!!

  Very, very bad idea, commercially! 

I would have them investigating faults thoroughly & getting them fixed in a timely manner.

The group would be bankrupt within 6 months.
(Unless they gave me FTTP (oD) in week one).
I'd then be like the rest - not giving a monkey's about anyone else 

 
I think my neighbour can hear me laughing   

[Black Sheep]

Of course.  Now all I need is someone to explain the benefits of buying back something I used to own, when I got nothing out of the sale in the first place?  Oh no, I did!  I got to keep some rock somewhere in the South Atlantic, but no doubt FTTP will be arriving there any minute!   

  You don't really think you 'owned' it before, do you ?? Just like we didn't really own 'Northern Rock' when it had a run. Now, with shareholdings, I have in my hand a piece of paper (something always good happens when a sentence is started in this way  ), that tells me I really do own a part of BT PLC !! 

Yes, they already have 'Fibre To The Penguin' installed, down in the Falklands. 

[ColinS]

You don't really think you 'owned' it before, do you ??

Depends upon what you think 'it' was ... it's a generational thing; but I do seem to recollect some quote from somebody called Macmillan, something about 'selling off the family silver'.  Let's leave it at that. 

[Black Sheep]

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[tickmike]

I think our local exchange is not being updated until end 2014 / 2015 ...from My ISP (RFS 1.9.2013 ! From exchange details) ?.
My line comes from my local exchange to a 'green' connection box in our village (4Kl), then it comes to my house underground (0.7Kl).

1.  Once the exchange has fibre is it rolled out to all the locations it serves or are these date's when the FTTC is made live.

2. Will my line equipment then be in the FTTC cabinet ?.

3. Will my service be updated for the same price ?, or will I have to order a new product from Eclipse my ISP ?.

4. What if I want FTTH ?, would I have to ask my ISP ?.

I'm learning fast about Fibre 

[kitz]

1.  The date given is the exchange date and not all cabs may be live.   Ive heard in some areas they may do the more remote cabs first, but around here they did those nearest the exchange first and anything more than about 1.5miles still isnt live yet.   I guess it depends on cable routing and how difficult it is to lay fibre to the individual cabinets. 

2.  Yes the DSLAM will be in the FTTC cab

3.  You will have to order a new product which is slightly dearer than adsl.  Theres 2 prices based on 'up to' speed 40/10 and 80/20.  Theres also currently a connection fee, usually around £50, but some ISPs such as plusnet may wave this depending on which package you select.

4.  You'll need to do a bit more digging on this as it would have to be "FTTP on demand"...  which would require your ISPs intervention.  Last time I looked (a while ago now) there was no guide pricing for FTTP on demand as it requires surveys and planning by BT.    FTTP on demand needs FTTC to already be in the area.

[Black Sheep]

Slight edit on Kitz otherwise perfect insight into Fibre Broadband .......... there is a 3rd, and lesser product available. That is 40/2 Meg. 

[HPsauce]

The other evening I saw contractors working underground in our village, at first it looked like they were clearing drains - lots of water.
Turns out they were blowing (well pumping I guess, or clearing ducts) fibre for BT, so hopefully some of our FTTC cabinets will be live soon. 
(Exchange was on the "released" list a few posts back)

[kitz]

Hopefully soon then HP

[waltergmw]

@ HP,

Around here BT do use subcontractors to rod and then repair ducts (and sometimes damage existing cables) but they only use their own staff, including a man & wife team, to pull sub duct and then blow the actual fibre.

You can get a rough idea of the work planning process by using the web site:-

http://www.elgin.org.uk/

specifying your area and radius but you MUST tick the Planned works in the top RH box as shown below.
It can be unreliable particularly if your area was originally installed with the more fragile salt glazed pipe ducts as nobody seems unduly concerned if the break them.
Once punctured tree roots colonise the duct for a plentiful supply of water.

This is the text for a typical fibre install:-

The Street, Wonersh, Guildford, Surrey
Works Start:    27 Aug
End:    27 Aug
Medium impact, delays possible
Location : Outside the Old Store The Street to junction Cranleigh Road...
Description: Access to Jointing chambers to provide new fibre cable off peak 09.30-15.30
Current status: Advanced planning


Kind regards,
Walter

[Black Sheep]

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[BritBrat]

Description : Install 2m of 1 way power duct in Footway,Install 5m of 1 way poly duct in Footway,Performing an 1excavation to expose existing power cable in Footway,Provide 1 Provide/Recover 1 NGA Cab and base (1.5m x 0.5m).

Could this mean a FTTC instation?

[burakkucat]

Yes, it certainly lists all the necessary actions to provision a FTTC.