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[kitz]

I guess we knew it was coming,  sad day for me

It was in the news today that Be Un Limited is being sold to Sky.

As you're likely to have some questions about what this means, we wanted to let you know there's information available right now here: www.bethere.co.uk/broadbandchanges 

There's also a letter on its way that'll tell you what's happening and when.

As your letter will explain, nothing is changing straight away and you don't need to do a thing.

When will my broadband and landline be moved to Sky?

We expect the deal to be finalised soon, subject to Regulatory Approval and certain other conditions. We will then be moving your broadband and (if you have BE Landline) your landline to Sky, but this won't happen until later this year.

You'll get plenty of notice when it is time for your service to be switched over

I notice it says we will be migrated to the Sky platform.  Wonder what will happen to all the Annex_M connections?

[roseway]

As you say, a sad day.

[guest]

Your Annex M connections will cease to be Annex M.

You'll go onto Sky DLM which will fit a profile to your line. Worth noting that DLM is the only way you will get above 20Mbps downstream on Sky now - maximum manual profile is 20Mbps down and 1.2Mbps up.

Plus side is their international routing and bandwidth is much much much better than Telefonica's.

[Black Sheep]

There are mutterings within the engineering ranks of OR, that SKY are considering purchasing Openreach ??!! Rumour has it, (and it is only rumour) and I don't have any evidence, linkies, or a piece of paper in my hand ............ that it's down to their fear of losing their grip on the TV side of the fence.

I reiterate, it's only gossip doing the rounds in the linesmens rooms.

[guest]

I can't see Sky wanting to be the whipping boys for everyone's faults

Sky's holy grail has been to get rid of the dependence of their business on satellites.

They are expensive and the risks are off the scale in terms of what most businesses would consider reasonable. Couple of weeks ago - imagine one of those rocks hit a couple of satellites. Your multi-billion TV business just died unless you can rent capacity and potentially get people out to re-align every dish.

That is plan A, B & C for Sky and they'll do what it takes to make that happen.

Frankly I think in the long-term Openreach will have to be floated off as a totally seperate company/entity with the government having a "golden share".

Chinese walls only go so far and its not credible that ANY major teleco is going to have control of national network engineering resources and not exploit that in some way.

[UncleUB]

I moved to Origin BB(Part of the Digital Region project in South Yorkshire) in August of last year from O2 and have never looked back,yes I am paying more but now getting a solid fibre connection for £17.50 a month and the support is top drawer,nothing seems too much trouble...As an example,I was having trouble connecting my Panasonic TV to the internet so the guy at Origin phoned Panasonic on my behalf to get some more info and after calling me back the problem was sorted.

[guest]

If you're thinking fibre then I honestly don't know what to suggest.

Sky has problems on FTTC - possibly down to underpowered cpu on routers when wireless is active (IMHO). I beta-tested the new Sky hub last year and its 2 years out of date before they released it so I'm not sure that's an answer. You can use third-party stuff, Sky won't care - or support it.

My local PCP will go live this year for FTTC and I doubt I'll be using Sky for that as a large chunk of their backhaul is going to be VoD. If I want video messing up IP bandwidth then I already have Virgin as a choice