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Author Topic: Strange symbols in some forums  (Read 9792 times)

Floydoid

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Re: Strange symbols in some forums
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2007, 12:12:38 PM »

See how easy it is for messages to get lost in translation... maybe non-standard character sets hold the answers to the riddles of the universe.
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Re: Strange symbols in some forums
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2007, 12:46:39 PM »

Maybe it's something to do with parallel universes.
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Re: Strange symbols in some forums
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2007, 01:10:17 PM »

The thing is that on my Windows lappie I don't even see quotation marks. I rather suspect that's because I do have the right locale and codepages set and most Windows installs I see don't.

Think DBCS is bad now? It was stupendously horrible in the mid-90s  :lol:
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Re: Strange symbols in some forums
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2007, 01:39:20 PM »

Rizla, if you're talking about that webpage in question, then no, I don't see quotation marks either... the reason is because the high byte is missing... probably the way the text is rendered / stored in the database / who knows!

Do you see the right characters if you go to charmap as I did?
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Re: Strange symbols in some forums
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2007, 03:55:30 PM »

You're quite right there Chris. I would see the quotation marks too if the right Unicode characters were used.
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Re: Strange symbols in some forums
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2007, 04:41:04 PM »

Quite possibly Chris although I haven't checked. DBCS (or Unicode-whatever if you prefer that) is a minefield. I'm sure MS have a couple of DBCS which are wrongly identified too but frankly life is too short to bother :D

I'm still very impressed with the real hex code being displayed when the s/w didn't know what to do. Then again if its taken all of us to work it out then maybe it could be clearer? I'm no HCI designer though so what do I know? :)
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Re: Strange symbols in some forums
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2007, 06:59:01 PM »

>> I'm still very impressed with the real hex code being displayed when the s/w didn't know what to do.

It's certainly a new one on me, and I'm going to ask around a bit in Linux circles.
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Re: Strange symbols in some forums
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2007, 09:57:13 PM »

Someone else who uses PCLinuxOS finds the same as Floydy, i.e. pi  and not equals before and after 'vga'. pi appears to be Unicode character 03C0, and I haven't found 'not equals' yet, so goodness knows where those come from.
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Re: Strange symbols in some forums
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2007, 10:53:04 PM »

Not equal to is Unicode 2260, so like Eric, dunno where they come from!!

I'm still very impressed with the real hex code being displayed when the s/w didn't know what to do.
Probably simply that the character code is mapped in the character set font for characters that aren't displayed properly? Then again that's probably second nature to me as I remember redefining characters in an 8x8 bitmap on the BBC micro in order to produce simple graphics ;) Maybe it's done by the font renderer as a more general thing... you could check I suppose by seeing if it does it when using a Windows TTF file.

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Then again if its taken all of us to work it out...
Oy - what's all this 'us' about - I'm sure I figured it out by myself :P <grin>
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