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phi2008

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G.fast Router ...
« on: June 26, 2015, 02:54:50 AM »

It appears to be the case that the Netgear D7000 is going to use the Broadcom BCM63138 SoC, which supports G.fast, according to this post -

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That's what I've found 'so far'

Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l)
processor : 0
BogoMIPS : 1990.65

processor : 1
BogoMIPS : 1990.65

Features : swp half thumb fastmult edsp tls
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x4
CPU part : 0xc09
CPU revision : 1

Hardware : BCM963138
Revision : 0000
Serial : 0000000000000000

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2418181&#r6

Wonder how many other G.fast routers we'll see before the end of the year?
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Re: G.fast Router ...
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 06:33:21 AM »

The Netgear D7000 is not advertised as supporting G.fast. There have been occasions when a manufacturer sells hardware with firmware that limits its capabilities (e.g. VDSL2 hardware limited to ADSL by firmware), but people probably shouldn't buy this because they heard it supports G.fast, since it might not, unless they want to be the first to put some customised firmware on it. ;)
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phi2008

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 07:35:05 AM »

Fair point, I probably should have posted with the title "G.fast Router?".  ;)

Would seem a shame to use a chip with capabilities that are limited by software.
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Re: G.fast Router ...
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 08:17:36 AM »

Hi

I would second that.  Whilst the SoC chip may support G.Fast, there are other components external to the chip in the analogue stages that will need to be different to support the higher frequencies, then issues with licensing, testing and patents come into play that will mean they will not add support for G.Fast unless the product is going to be advertised and sold with it, which doesn't seem to be the case.

Netgear will simply bring out a new router with support for G.Fast when the time is right to cash in, they seem to be bringing out new routers every few months, and the D7000 isn't that different to the D6400, yes Netgear like to advertise a faster CPU in this model, but no one has been struggling or seen lower throughput's on the D6400 or the dozens of other routers running the same lower speed chipset, the higher number most people will see is on their electricity bill!  The speeds that Wi-Fi equipment are boasting these days (and has always been) is marketing, those top speeds can't be achieved outside the test lab and there is hardly any, if any, devices that support the trick they use on 2.4GHz to boost the claimed speeds that are then aggregated to 5GHz to come up with these huge numbers.

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Re: G.fast Router ...
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 09:21:56 AM »

The original DGND3700 supported VDSL but was crippled by NETGEAR to only support ADSL. I don't believe they ever enabled it.
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Re: G.fast Router ...
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 03:38:26 PM »

Already a D7000 thread, probably best to stick it in there :P

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,15601.0.html
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Re: G.fast Router ...
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 05:21:28 PM »

It's really about G.fast routers and apparently the D7000 won't be one ...  :P
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Re: G.fast Router ...
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 05:34:05 PM »

It's really about G.fast routers and apparently the D7000 won't be one ...  :P

I don't think we will really know that until a) they release the D7000 and b) they release G.Fast somewhere and c) if it is not in the firmware and Netgear be retards and not enable it :P

But okay ....... :P
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Re: G.fast Router ...
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2015, 09:42:35 AM »

There is also Alcatel Lucent 7368 ISAM CPE F-240W-A router that seems interesting....


https://www.alcatel-lucent.com/produ...sam-cpe-f-240w
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Re: G.fast Router ...
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2015, 10:02:14 AM »

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Re: G.fast Router ...
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2015, 05:59:11 PM »

I wonder at what price will that Alcatel Lucent device retail?  :-\

Probably at quite a significant amount.  :(
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Re: G.fast Router ...
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2015, 06:53:14 PM »

I wonder at what price will that Alcatel Lucent device retail?  :-\

Probably at quite a significant amount.  :(

As the G.Fast Trials have just started ......you will have plenty of time to save up ......  :D
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