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Author Topic: How not to do FTTC  (Read 6082 times)

waltergmw

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How not to do FTTC
« on: June 19, 2012, 02:12:15 PM »

Gentlefolk,

The attached link illustrates how not to attempt a cabinet re-sleeve prior to a FTTC installation near the Cranleigh Post Office in Surrey.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97538956

Perhaps it illustrates the consequences of using segregated teams where such a blunder can easily be made with a lack of experience.

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Walter
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 07:09:50 PM »

So what's not to like?
 
Easy access to the cabinet internals for the OR engineer, air cooling of critical electronic components and connections, I think its an exemplary piece of work which is a lesson for us all.


   
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 07:33:43 PM »

@BBN -- I assume that when you are getting dressed you put your trousers on over your head, your left shoe on the right foot and your right shoe on the left foot?  :P

I think that image should be labelled "Spot The Mishap".  ::)

@Walter -- Have you pointed out the "folly" to the Evil Empire of Newgate Street or do you intend to wait for Beatie to discover it for herself?
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 10:14:45 PM »

@BBN -- I assume that when you are getting dressed you put your trousers on over your head, your left shoe on the right foot and your right shoe on the left foot?  :P

Doesn't everybody get dressed that way?

Seriously though, I presume that this cabinet was properly closed up before the "builders" finished for the day?
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2012, 12:26:09 AM »

@ BKK,

Please see http://www.ewhurst-broadband.org.uk/?p=2463#comment-306
but of course we haven't had any response from "Those who NEVER make mistakes" like these:-

http://www.ewhurst-broadband.org.uk/?p=2482

http://www.ewhurst-broadband.org.uk/?p=2429

Fortunately the exchange is just round the corner so I broke the BT authorisation rule and walked into the compound to find a very friendly engineer about to drive off.
He was very grateful and had some (unrepeatable) choice words to say re the NGA construction teams.

@ BBN

If you are being serious, the Operatives have made a fundamental blunder again.
It will be quite impossible to access all the manky old jumper bundles from the rear of the "Frame", nor would it be practical to strip the entire unit down and remake every twisted pair connection.
The following picture is of the one they half-finished on December 12 last year, but then recently had to break the duct seals to install the 5 pr telemetry cable to the little white box.
This line connects to an old fashioned dial-up modem in the FTTC and relays data back such as doors open, cabinet over-temperature etc.
We are STILL waiting for the fibre connection though.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97601833

Incidentally the small "blue bean" crimps were declared unsuitable years ago as they were of dissimilar metals making the connections unreliable.
Just out of interest an ordinary telephone pair has 4 crimps using the blue/yellow jumper wire to connect the E side pair to the D side, but a FTTC connection doubles that number in the PCP and adds a further 6 connections in the FTTC.

Kind regards,
Walter
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2012, 02:59:00 AM »

So what's not to like?
 
Easy access to the cabinet internals for the OR engineer, air cooling of critical electronic components and connections, I think its an exemplary piece of work which is a lesson for us all.



OMG...  i think I just woke my neighbour up I am laughing so god damn hard...  hahah I still cant stop laughing and now the tears are rolling down my cheeks.

I award you the best laugh of the week award..  love your SoH   :lol: :lol:
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2012, 03:12:20 AM »

 


Sorry I lost it for a while then, I was looking at the pic and then went back to the thread when bbnovices response caught my eye...

@walter .. perhaps now Ive regained my composure I can type a reply to you....  oopsie ... that has got to be blunder of the month :o
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2012, 07:06:05 AM »

@ Kitz,

Yes, I can understand your mirth but very sadly we seem to become complacent with " .... One of the worst mistakes humanity has made ...." according to BT's former CTO Peter Cochrane in his House of Lords evidence.

This is further exemplified by the very carefully crafted myopic** evidence from Sean Williams, the ex Ofcom executive who is now BT's Group Strategy Director.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/lords-select/communications-committee/Publications/

But back to sunny Surrey. I have more photographs, now added below, of how another operative uses a humongous core drill to cut two new duct holes into the adjacent joint pit.
Perhaps more worryingly he has to tread in the bilges all over the other twisted pair and fibre cables and joints.

** uncreative, narrow-minded, small-minded, short-term, shortsighted

Kind regards,
Walter

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97640164/Cables-amp-Yellow-marked-Fibre-Tubes-5363

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97640157/Core-Drill-5362

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97640148/Fibre-Tube-Joint-Under-Core-Drill-5360

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97640143/Core-Drilling-5366
« Last Edit: June 20, 2012, 08:16:32 AM by waltergmw »
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2012, 06:49:03 PM »

Sorry about the flippant post - I seem to have rubbed some people up the wrong way!!!

I guess its sub-contractors doing the work?

If so, I suspect there may be a problem with inspection of the subs work here. The subs are often paid peanuts on the promise of volumes of work - else they can't make any money. However this demands a strict inspection regime or else a lot of sloppy work gets under the radar and paid for. If they know that they may not be inspected they will take liberties because of the contractual time pressures they are under.

When, many many years ago I worked for a cable TV company, proper management of the civils was a critical success factor. If the work was not done right in the first place you could disappear up your own backside subsequently fixing network problems after "go live" - and annoying the customer in the process.

This isn't rocket science but its seems to me that some companies never learn.       
« Last Edit: June 20, 2012, 06:51:26 PM by bbnovice »
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2012, 12:12:35 AM »

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Sorry about the flippant post - I seem to have rubbed some people up the wrong way!!!

There's no need for you to apologise. (Didn't you spot the cat's tongue?  :P  )  :D
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Re: How not to do FTTC
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2012, 07:39:18 PM »

@BBN,

Again no need to apologise, but you did say "seriously" and we have a big pussy who sometimes gets tetchy about precise descriptions !

Kind regards,
Walter
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