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Title: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 04, 2011, 07:38:04 AM
As this is a new version/update of Java does it have to be installed manually or will it be rolled out via auto updates?

It has been available a few days via Filehippo,but as yet when I check on the Java site it says, 'congratulations,you have the recommended Java installed,(version6,update 26)
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: roseway on August 04, 2011, 07:54:38 AM
Java has got a bit more complicated now that it's been sold to Oracle. Java.com still offers version 6, but the Oracle Java site (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html) offers version 7. It's probably best to wait awhile and let the dust settle.
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: tuftedduck on August 04, 2011, 07:58:02 AM
You will need to install manually, and then uninstall any older versions you have.

I would recommend that you hold off installing this new version.......there are a great number of reported serious problems with it across the several forums.

Let them iron out the bugs before proceeding.
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 04, 2011, 09:07:17 AM
Thanks for the replies.... :)

Will hold off for now then
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: AdrianH on August 04, 2011, 09:27:10 AM
The not so "Show Stopper Bug" and what is happening ........


http://www.sdtimes.com/blog/post/2011/08/02/The-Java-SE-7-Bug.aspx


Unless you are compiling on an Apache Server are you really going to be affected?


Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 04, 2011, 09:54:47 AM
I have seen a thread over at the C/A forums where users have updated manually and then deleted the previous version without any problems reported... ???
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: AdrianH on August 04, 2011, 10:42:40 AM
I have seen a thread over at the C/A forums where users have updated manually and then deleted the previous version without any problems reported... ???

I only had a quick read but I think end users are not affected, it is more server apps and developers that are being hit.


Having looked further this is the JDK version and not for end users Java6 update 26 is still current. (http://www.java.com/en/download/windows_manual.jsp?locale=en )
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 09, 2011, 10:22:33 AM
I have downloaded Java 1.7 from Filehippo.It has installed fine without any problems.I then went to the add/remove programmes and uninstalled version 6.

I then restarted my computer and the older version had been removed from browser extensions/plug-ins when it was opened again. :)
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: scottiesmum on August 09, 2011, 10:42:41 AM
This is a situation where my mind closes down   :blush:  ;D    Do I need to do this  ?  Could you post the link Unc please, then I can have  trouble free installation like you   :D
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 09, 2011, 11:01:45 AM
Just download it from here Kate

http://www.filehippo.com/download_jre_32/

Then check that it is ok by clicking on this link

http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?jre_version=1.7.0&vendor=Oracle+Corporation&os=Windows+Vista&os_version=6.0

The new one is 1.7.0

Then go to add/remove programmes,you should see version 7 which has just been installed and also version 6.(update 26 was the latest one).Remove it and then restart your computer.
Then when you open firefox you should just see Java console 7 in the extensions list and in the plug-in list you should just see Java Deployment Toolkit 7.0.0.147  10.0.0.47 and Java(TM) Platform SE7 10.0.0.147

Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: scottiesmum on August 09, 2011, 11:43:38 AM
Thanks Unc   :flower: :flower:  have done exactly as you said, and it worked a treat    :)
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 09, 2011, 11:50:13 AM
Thanks Unc   :flower: :flower:  have done exactly as you said, and it worked a treat    :)

Excellent  :thumbs:

I love it when I go into guru mode  :lol:
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: scottiesmum on August 09, 2011, 12:02:50 PM
 :lol:   
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 16, 2011, 04:54:39 PM
Now being told its not compatible with FireFox 6......... :no:

Is it possible to revert back to Java 1.6.26

It is working due to the fact I am using the compatibility reporter add-on

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: tuftedduck on August 16, 2011, 05:00:54 PM
>> Is it possible to revert back to Java 1.6.26 <<

Go to filehippo http://www.filehippo.com/download_jre_32/ , download and save the older version.

Uninstall the new version you want rid of.

Install older version.
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: scottiesmum on August 16, 2011, 05:53:13 PM
 :silly: :cry2:      I have reverted to 1.6.26 too   but Firefox tells me that's not compatible with Firefox 6 either   :'(     

What should I do now ?   ...................   pretty please   ;D
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: scottiesmum on August 16, 2011, 08:22:05 PM
 Oooooo   But Unc you're my Guru   :D      ......  Do I need this Java thing at all  .....?   because the version I have installed is shown as this   


Entry Name          : Java(TM) 6 Update 26
Version             : 6.0.260
Company             : Oracle
Installation Folder : C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\

on my Add Ons/Extensions in Firefox  it is showing  as     Java Console 6.0.26    DISABLED    Not compatible with Firefox 6    ...............   but I can't see anything different  happening without it !  :'(    so, that's why I wonder do I need it  ?   :'( :'(

I have another Java thingy  ... called Quickstarter   which is enabled in Firefox 6  ......     my mind has closed down again  ;D
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 17, 2011, 06:02:49 AM
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Oooooo   But Unc you're my Guru  :D

The Guru is off sick with a headache  :D


Well it seems that others who have downloaded FireFox 6 are reporting that version 1.6.26 is incompatible.

But that is the Java console in Firefox Add ons

If you look in plug ins you will see that it is ok and apparently the plug-in is the main thing

http://forums.computeractive.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1305168#post1305168

Posts#46 and #47

Test whether Java is working here

http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp


And to confuse things more,version 1.6.27 has just been released........... :shrug2:
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: scottiesmum on August 17, 2011, 07:38:33 AM
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi94.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl97%2Fkte_2006%2FScreenHunter_02August172011.jpg&hash=734cd4923922e70106df4f5a3885dedf3ea6cac6)    PLUG INS  ....   
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi94.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl97%2Fkte_2006%2FScreenHunter_03August172011.jpg&hash=4da2b5dcb3e6fd140b11d7ac01693468a77ee3ba)    Extensions  ..this is the one that has been disabled

Then I did the test  .....  (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi94.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl97%2Fkte_2006%2FScreenHunter_04August172011.jpg&hash=826cb991660a00a5fac8a0ff9983a7e9c66c9e92)

so it's   :shrug2:  from me too   ...   :'(
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 17, 2011, 08:02:26 AM
According to the release notes anyone who has update 26,doesn't need update 27

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/6u27-relnotes-444147.html

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Java SE 6u27 does not add any fixes for security vulnerabilities beyond those in Java SE 6u26. Users who have Java SE 6u26 have the latest security fixes and do not need to upgrade to this release to be current on security fixes.
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: scottiesmum on August 17, 2011, 08:25:22 AM
Unc, one thing I notice  is that Java Console  (the one that is not compatible with FF6) is an    Oracle product, whilst the Java Test, which tells me my Java is working is a Sun Micro systems programme  .....    as I haven't a clue what I'm talking about   ::)   does this have any bearing on anything ?
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: tuftedduck on August 17, 2011, 08:32:51 AM
The product was until recently owned and authored by Sun Micro System, who sold it to Oracle........so it is possible that you have references to both companies. In itself, nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: scottiesmum on August 17, 2011, 08:35:01 AM
Thank you TD   ...  one problem  very quickly solved  ;D
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: UncleUB on August 25, 2011, 07:55:34 AM
According to this Java console is not required to make Java work in Firefox

http://techlogon.com/2011/08/17/java-console-is-incompatible-with-firefox-6/

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Is There A New Version Of The Java Console Add-on?

No. Checking Firefox add-ons for updates will not find any newer version of Java Console that is compatible with Firefox 6.0

Does It Matter?

    No – you can safely ignore these incompatible Java Console add-ons. The Java Console is a redundant add-on i.e. it is not needed for Java to work properly in Firefox!

    There is no performance loss in having these add-ons as disabled.
Title: Re: New Java 1.7 release
Post by: scottiesmum on August 25, 2011, 12:27:31 PM
Thanks for that Unc ...    :)