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Broadband Related => Broadband Technology => Topic started by: roseway on February 16, 2011, 07:39:54 PM
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A discussion elsewhere on the forum brought it home to me how unprepared most of us are in respect of the change to IPv6. Already the final batch of IPv4 addresses (http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/final-batch-of-ipv4-addresses-assigned-exhaustion-sets-in-926075) has been assigned, so we are now firmly on the downward slope towards the time when they will be exhausted.
Several things have to happen to achieve the changeover, including some interim means of enabling users without IPv6 capability to retain connectivity. I thought it would be a good idea to gather together all the available relevant information to help users prepare themselves. What I propose, if we can collect sufficient information, is to tabulate the data in several sections:
- ISP readiness
- router readiness
- operating system readiness
- browser readiness
- ... and anything else?
As a first test, you can see your own state of readiness here. (http://test-ipv6.com/)
If people can post comments to this message with information in the above categories, I will tabulate it here. All contributions are of course acknowledged.
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Routers
Billion 7800N - firmware upgrade promised this spring
Billion 7800NL - IPv6 compatible
Draytek Vigor 2130 Series (router only, not ADSL) - IPv6 Phase 1
Fritz!Box 3270 (?), 7270, 7340, 7390 - IPv6 compatible
2-wire 2700HGV (BT Business Hub) - IPv6 compatible (may need a firmware upgrade?)
Operating systems
Linux (all versions for last 5 years or more) - IPv6 compatible
Windows XP (SP2 and later) - IPv6 compatible
Windows Vista - IPv6 compatible
Browsers
Firefox (all versions) - IPv6 compatible
Internet Explorer (v8 and later) - IPv6 compatible
Opera v11 - IPv6 compatible
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Hi
I get
World IPv6 day is June 8th, 2011. No problems are anticipated for you with this browser, at this location. [more info]
10/10 for your IPv4 stability and readiness, when publishers offer both IPv4 and IPv6
The rest basically says that I will not be able to browse sites using IPv6 only
I am using FF and with ZEN ,OS Vista
Run test with IeE *.0.06*** and Same result
Regards Jeff
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I ran the test again this am.
I misread the test result yesterday...I took it to tell me that my Opera browser will not be compatible with IPv6......but it is the test that is not fully compatible with Opera.
Anyway, did the workaround as suggested with following results.
Windows XP with SP2 or later.........no problems
Opera browser................................no problems
Netgear DG834G v4 with firmware v5.01.01.........no problem (If I understand test result as posted below)
ISP..Virgin Media ADSL.............no problem ( again, I presume from the undernoted)
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm34%2Fbunessan%2FIPv6day.jpg&hash=ceeb29ffe425aba6f7065efcd78b8157acb0547f)
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Run test with IeE *.0.06*** and Same result
Sorry if I'm being dense, but does that mean IE6?
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Netgear DG834G v4 with firmware v5.01.01.........no problem (If I understand test result as posted below)
ISP..Virgin Media ADSL.............no problem ( again, I presume from the undernoted)
I think that all it was saying is that you won't have a problem on IPv6 day. I don't think the DG834Gv4 is ready for native IPv6, and I doubt if VM are ready yet.
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Hi
Run test with IeE *.0.06*** and Same result oops
should have been IE8 (finger trouble)
Regards Jeff
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Thanks, I've corrected my data.
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Your readiness scores
10/10 for your IPv4 stability and readiness, when publishers offer both IPv4 and IPv6
0/10 for your IPv6 stability and readiness, when publishers are forced to go IPv6 only
Doesn't sound too good for me.
Cheers,
Peter
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That's the result which nearly everyone will get at the moment.
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another one same as geep above, tried with OpenDNS and TT dns servers :(
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These are my results with a 2WIRE 2700HGV (firmware version 5.29.117.6) in bridged mode running as a modem and a cisco clone router:
Test with IPv4 DNS record
ok (0.389s) using ipv4
Test with IPv6 DNS record
timeout (15.021s)
Test with IPv4 DNS record
ok (0.385s) using ipv4
Test with Dual Stack DNS record
ok (0.396s) using ipv4
Test IPv4 without DNS
ok (0.395s) using ipv4
Test IPv6 without DNS
timeout (15.022s)
Test IPv6 large packet
timeout (15.021s)
The router is running as a local resolver. IPv6-only domains fail to connect:
$ telnet aaaa.test-ipv6.com 79
telnet: can't connect to remote host: Network is unreachable
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Thanks Mick.
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A discussion elsewhere on the forum brought it home to me how unprepared most of us are in respect of the change to IPv6. Already the final batch of IPv4 addresses (http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/final-batch-of-ipv4-addresses-assigned-exhaustion-sets-in-926075) has been assigned, so we are now firmly on the downward slope towards the time when they will be exhausted.
Several things have to happen to achieve the changeover, including some interim means of enabling users without IPv6 capability to retain connectivity.
I had no idea that the last batch of IP addresses have been assigned meaning that we have at most 5 years to sort it.
Let's hope something is done in time to avoid internet connectivity problems.
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As a first test, you can see your own state of readiness here. (http://test-ipv6.com/)
I'm confused as I'm running both a compatible browser (Firefox) and a compatible operating system (Vista) unless the reason why I am unprepared is because I'm using a router that isn't listed as compatible namely a Netgear DG834GT ?
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi52.tinypic.com%2F2r3f56p.jpg&hash=ac12330409e156c955fb566b2443959e9c411fd3)
p.s. after re-reading the results text it appears that the DNS server could be to blame which is down to my ISP (O2) !
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Yes, your ISP is certainly an essential part in the chain, and very few UK ISP's currently have IPv6 capability. I believe I read recently that AAISP did support IPv6 but had to switch it off temporarily because of an incompatibility with a particular router.
On the subject of routers, that's an issue too. Your Netgear doesn't currently support IPv6, although it may be possible with a firmware upgrade. IPv6 capability in a router depends on the chipset used, together with supporting firmware; I know that the Broadcom BCM6358 is IPv6 capable, so in principle any routers using this chipset could be upgraded with firmware, but I'm not sure about the older BCM6348.
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5 Years, 5 years. Take advice from (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dadsarmy.co.uk%2FResources%2Fdunna.jpeg&hash=c56dbcbe26b872ea6130aa3e69137105e5318082) ;D
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Hi Eric,
I received a useful link to a PDF for
the 2Wire 2000 series from Glen on Idnetters (For which many thanks).
http://www.2wire.com/pages/pdfs/5100-000562-000_2W_Rev_A_0107.pdf
The relevant para states:-
Network Protocol Support
• ATM UNI, UBR, VBRnrt, VBRrt, CBR
• Support up to 8 ATM PVCs in any confi guration
• IPv4, IPv6 capable, TCP, UDP, ARP, ICMP
• DHCP client/server, DNS client/server, HTTP client and server
• Single IP and multi-IP support
• Multicast IGMP Proxy, IGMP Snooping
• PPPoE, PPPoA, PAP, CHAP, RFC 2684/1483 Ethernet
• Support up to 8 PPP links and up to 8 PVCs
• 802.1x broadband network authentication
but that suggests a firmware upgrade is necessary.
EDIT :- I've just confirmed AAISP have disabled IPv6 on the line I was testing but say the modem must be upgraded once IPv6 addresses are becoming more extensively used. As both Thompson 585 & 784 routeres were both playing up it follows they too will need upgrades.
Kind regards,
Walter
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Thanks Walter. I suppose it's too much to hope that BT Internet would confirm whether it needs an upgrade of their firmware. Yes, I thought so.
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I just dont understand the update on routers only.
Home and office networks dont need ipv6 imo.
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@ Eric,
Perhaps better than that, you might just be relaxing with a bit of surfing when the internet light (and possibly you) will turn red and a new version of the firmware will be downloaded without you lifting a finger or even knowing about it - unless you have done the DNS Poisoning trick.
Kind regards,
Walter
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Yes I know, Walter, that's the small downside of what is otherwise a first-class router.
@facsi: Possibly you're right, but really we're talking about internet-connected routers here.
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@rose
what about it connect thru internet by ipv6 and connect lan pcs via ipv4?
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If you're asking me if that's technically possible, the answer is that I don't really know. But as the few IPv6 routers available currently have dual Ipv4/IPv6 capability, I expect that it can be done, and may even be the norm.