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Computers & Hardware => Networking => Topic started by: dave1510 on December 05, 2006, 10:47:08 PM

Title: Networking a new laptop
Post by: dave1510 on December 05, 2006, 10:47:08 PM
Need a hand with probably a small problem:

My Brother in law has a Desktop PC which he used to connect to Talk Talk via a Speedtouch USB modem.

As they are gaining a laptop, he has bought a router/modem. (Linksys WAG54G)

We have connected it up and it works fine.

The said laptop is the problem - It is a Fujitsu Siemens L7320GW (Staples)

It has an "Atheros AR5005G Wireless Network Adaptor" which according to the Device manager is enabled and "woking properly".

However there are "No wireless networks within range" when it is 6 inches away from the router!

I have tried to set up a wireless network connection using automatic settings and have put the WEP encryption code into the router setup page as it was given by the lap top.

I think I need to start again from scratch, but would appreciate some advice in really easy to understand terms!

I have a desktop PC connected wirelessly to my router, but it is connected via a Linksys USB dongle.

Do I have to use a Linksys USB dongle to connect this laptop to the router. I find this unlikely

I tried using a 26 digit generated code should I have used a 10?

I think I am struggeling on the network bit. - would appreciate some guidence - as I said in simple easy to read & understand terms.


Thanx :)
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: mr_chris on December 06, 2006, 08:44:07 AM
This may seem really obvious, but is the wireless actually active on the laptop?

On your laptop if you hold down the [Fn] key and then press [F2], you should see a little indicator light come on or off - it might show something on the screen as well.

Hopefully that's all it is.
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: dave1510 on December 06, 2006, 05:42:28 PM
I'm all for being told the "really obvious" because usualy - it isnt to the person who's stuck!

I will try this, and post back

Thank :)
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: soms on December 08, 2006, 12:13:13 AM
Don't forget some laptops might have proper dedicated buttons or even switches for turning wireless on/off in place of function key combinations.

Our Linksys has never caused any problems, so as you pointed out, other laptop was fine so must be something on said laptop.

Out of interest are you using a third party application or the Windows wireless functionality? I guess your using Windows XP? Note that Service Pack 2 has a far superiour wireless interface to SP1, although the later does support WEP encryption (but not WPA etc).

I also know that when SP2 was released, and I installed it, my original wireless drivers caused me problems and I had to download and install a newer version for the wireless to work properly.

And finally... check what networking protocols are set on your Wireless connection on said laptop.

Untick everything apart from "Client for MS networks" (providing it is a microsoft orientated network) and "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".

Anything else (apart from maybe QoS Quality of service if you use it) can be unticked as I know the drivers on my laptop installed things such as WLAN protocol and AEGIS protocol which only made connections fail or drop out altogether.

Hope that might help (or at least provide some info)
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: mr_chris on December 08, 2006, 09:17:32 AM
Don't forget some laptops might have proper dedicated buttons or even switches for turning wireless on/off in place of function key combinations.
I looked up the key combo for this particular laptop before posting that ;)
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: dave1510 on December 08, 2006, 04:42:00 PM
I looked up the key combo for this particular laptop before posting that
Can you tell me whether I can look up to view any other infor that might help me regarding this (i.e. plan of said lap top keyboard? (Not by lap top at moment, and may try and do a (over the phone) job!)

Thanx :)
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: mr_chris on December 09, 2006, 05:09:09 PM
Go to http://www.fujitsu-siemens.co.uk/support/manuals.html

Type in L7320GW into the search box that comes up... then you can view the different manuals for the laptop online

Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: dave1510 on December 09, 2006, 10:44:08 PM
Didn't seem to work for me:

First link gave me:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6657/screen1mt9.jpg


typing L7320GW into the search box gave me:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7558/screen2ku3.jpg

What have I done wrong?

:(
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: mr_chris on December 10, 2006, 01:06:29 AM
I guess you'd have to follow the instructions on the first screen... to allow session cookies for the site to work properly. I forgot it did that!
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: dave1510 on December 10, 2006, 07:43:08 PM
Nope - sorry - tried that - no better - even went to the next one below the one mentioned  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: kitz on December 12, 2006, 12:37:32 AM
worked ok from here.

Can you get to it direct from this link

http://support.fujitsu-siemens.com/Manuals/ShowDescription_KMT.asp?DokuID=204098

I know the first bit is in german.. 
but if you click the download button it gives you the UK document.
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: dave1510 on December 12, 2006, 02:18:26 PM
 :thumbs:  Thats great - now to do some reading...

One thing as I'm here - even though I select to "stay permnanantly logged in" each time I access the forum site from the email alert, I have to log in again - is this normal?

Thanx :D
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: kitz on December 12, 2006, 02:55:51 PM
>> I have to log in again - is this normal?

Nope..  you should remain permanently logged in.
However its a cookie that controls the login facility.

In view of the fact that you couldnt access the FJS site properly either, I  think that maybe you have your cookie settings set too strict.

Check which settings you have.
In IE >>

Tools >>
Internet Options >>
"Privacy" Tab >>
Click the "Advanced" Button >>

You should have the following as per the image below.

First party cookies store information you have already given to a particular website.

more info
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/computer-security/cookies.html
http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/opinions/cookies.html

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Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: browolf on December 12, 2006, 03:11:44 PM
i'd be inclined to use netstumbler (http://www.netstumbler.com/downloads/) to detect the wireless before worrying about trying to connect to it.  That way you can concentrate on the harware issues.

we had a laptop once with an internal expansion wireless card in a secret compartment that someone had forgotten to connect the antenna wire!
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: dave1510 on December 13, 2006, 05:57:43 PM
Thanks Kitz, I found they were set to "Auto" - have now adjusted to your recomendations (Auto was a slider - moderatly high)

I do use cc cleaner & Adaware about once a week, would this wipe out the cookies?

If it does, is there anything I can do, or will I just have to live with it? (logging in each time after I have run these programs)

Thanx :)
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: dave1510 on December 13, 2006, 06:07:39 PM
Would there be any merit in trying the lap top on my own Wireless Network? I take it I would have to set it up and enter my WEP key?

Thoughts  :hmm:
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: kitz on December 14, 2006, 07:03:12 AM
cccleaner deletes cookies

See the attached to see where it can be turned off
http://www.ccleaner.com/help/tour/?2

Theres also possibly a similar setting in adaware too.. afraid I havent got it on the PC to check right now as I use spybot - which also has the option to remove cookies.
However.. spybot lets you mark which ones you designate to remember and retain.
Title: Re: Networking a new laptop
Post by: dave1510 on December 14, 2006, 09:43:25 AM
I also use Spybot (am I being OTT?) It looks like the cccleaner option is "all or nothing" Adaware will allow me to be selective - not sure where on Spybot to look.

Thanx :)