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Broadband Related => FTTP Rollout => Topic started by: GigabitEthernet on March 11, 2022, 10:05:51 PM

Title: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on March 11, 2022, 10:05:51 PM
I thought I'd start a thread on FTTP in the Borough of Wandsworth. Openreach seem to be doing a lot of work now, they're all over the place and seem to be over time moving further north up the borough.

I live near East Putney and work seems to be scheduled for around here over the coming days.

I am hoping FTTP might be here by the end of the summer if we are lucky.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on March 13, 2022, 01:49:26 AM
I also live in Wandsworth and was told in June that FTTP should be available by the end of July this year (assuming no delays to Openreach's timescales)

I don't know if you monitor planned works by https://one.network/?

If so, you may also want to keep an eye on http://public.londonworks.gov.uk/ which gives more detail of the works planned like one.network used too.

You can filter the results by Works Owner so:

BT = Openreach
COM = Community Fibre
G = g.network
VIR = Virgin Media
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on March 20, 2022, 11:22:15 PM
I should have mentioned in my previous post that:

a) Community Fibre are rolling out FTTP to lots of premises in the borough (including a lot of non-MDU buildings); and

b) g.network are also installing FTTP starting in Clapham Junction/Battersea as per the map at https://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/news/2021-news/news-may-2021/battersea-chosen-for-launch-of-borough-s-full-fibre-ultrafast-internet-rollout/
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on March 21, 2022, 05:12:30 PM
Walked down Mexfield Road this morning, BTO is now marked on the pavement so I can only assume they will be hitting that road soon.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on March 25, 2022, 08:35:48 AM
Small world! My parents lived there when they first moved to London.

I walked past there yesterday as well but sadly I don't think the handful of markings there/on Oakhill Road are FTTP related - as they differ from all the others I have seen used elsewhere.

In slightly brighter news, we received a letter from Community Fibre saying they plan to rollout their network to us in the near future..

Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Black Sheep on March 25, 2022, 01:54:02 PM
Small world! My parents lived there when they first moved to London.

I walked past there yesterday as well but sadly I don't think the handful of markings there/on Oakhill Road are FTTP related - as they differ from all the others I have seen used elsewhere.

In slightly brighter news, we received a letter from Community Fibre saying they plan to rollout their network to us in the near future..

It is actually FTTP - Mexfield Rd was surveyed about 7 weeks ago.  :)
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on March 25, 2022, 03:33:17 PM
It is actually FTTP - Mexfield Rd was surveyed about 7 weeks ago.  :)

Lol - I stand corrected! In my defense, there are only a handful of markings and all at one end of the street - no signs for unblocking/De-silting or signs of blue rope.

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on March 26, 2022, 01:21:51 PM
Thanks BS.

In that case, I assume FTTP will be coming to these roads quite soon?
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Black Sheep on March 27, 2022, 09:48:37 AM
Absolutely, once the manual surveys have been completed then they go straight off to Planning for the finalised job-pack to be created, (these are a thing of beauty if you ever got to see one, literally every single thing you can think of is within these packs).

Once out of Planning it is then over to the build manager and his glide path as to what order the PON's will be built.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on April 12, 2022, 11:48:38 AM
A lot of work now going on up the A3...
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on April 14, 2022, 10:39:48 AM
Blue rope has arrived on Mexfield Road!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on April 14, 2022, 11:08:51 AM
Good news! Though we have had blue rope since before Christmas, so hopefully they install it here soon!

I am curious how much of an area Openreach tend to turn on at once. With Altnets, I imagine they may be willing to go live after each/a few PONs - but I assume OR would want a much bigger area to initially go live..
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: skyeci on April 14, 2022, 12:26:19 PM
My area went from nothing to being available to order in 2 weeks (openreach)

I'm hanging on though  as netomnia are installing at the moment and offering 1gb symmetrical...
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Reformed on April 17, 2022, 12:17:40 AM
A word to the wise: you mentioned automatic, unattended speed testing in an early thread. YouFibre are within their rights to boot you for this, so check their AUP/FUP closely.

Think you're far enough away you won't have to share bandwidth with me so that angle should be good.  ;)
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on April 21, 2022, 11:42:41 AM
Fibre has appeared on Mexfield Road! Overhead ready
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on April 21, 2022, 11:45:28 AM
Doesn’t look like the CBTs are up yet but fibre is now on the poles and blue rope has gone
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on April 21, 2022, 12:40:47 PM
Fibre has appeared on Mexfield Road! Overhead ready

Wow, that was quick!

Still waiting here for both the fibre and CBT - it's been months since the blue rope appeared.

I did see them laying fibre down East Hill/St John's Hill yesterday though, so I suspect Battersea will be added to the list of exchanges sooner rather than later
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on April 21, 2022, 02:29:41 PM
Blue rope was only there a week or two.

Any ideas how far away we are from being able to order now?
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on April 21, 2022, 03:30:34 PM
Blue rope was only there a week or two.

Any ideas how far away we are from being able to order now?

As has been said many times before, could be weeks, could be months, there is no hard rule.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on April 22, 2022, 03:46:15 PM
Openreach replaced a pole today on Pirbright Road with no notice. Might explain why they haven't installed fibre/CBT down the road yet though.

OR also have a lot of civils in the next few weeks on the Southfields Grid.

I've previously been told it should be available by the end of July. Given the amount of work around Wandsworth all at different stages, it seems like OR are going to do a big switch on rather than individual PONs when ready.

I guess they have to hope that Community Fibre don't gain all the early adopters as I gather that are happier to allow customers to order when individual areas are RFS.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on April 22, 2022, 09:29:31 PM
Yes I think you're right, they're getting mostly everywhere up to the same level it seems.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on April 23, 2022, 12:55:36 AM
I wouldn't be so sure.  They ran the fibre across the road from me just over two weeks ago and now its showing as WBC FTTP 300 is available.  My pole had the planning permission application show up on Thursday, as it needs ducting.

There are also other areas that they did prior that have active customers already.

I think what might take a while is the exchange upgrade to support the Gigabit service, which is somewhat annoying as I was planning to go straight for that.

Another thing is I think my exchange already had FTTP for a new build for quite a while, so they already had the equipment to support it.  An exchange with no existing FTTP may be waiting on hardware as due the silicon shortage its in short supply.  So really, I don't think its some master plan, they're doing it as fast as they can per area.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on April 26, 2022, 10:16:23 PM
Openreach replaced a pole today on Pirbright Road with no notice. Might explain why they haven't installed fibre/CBT down the road yet though.

And indeed, fibre has been run to the remaining telegraph poles today but without the CBTs.

I wouldn't be so sure.  They ran the fibre across the road from me just over two weeks ago and now its showing as WBC FTTP 300 is available. 

I don't believe any areas in Wandsworth have yet gone live with native FTTP, hence why I think they are going for a large initial launch (not comprehensive though)

Wandsworth is a Openreach Handover Point but I understand is on the list to be closed so I expect the FTTP headend to be elsewhere..
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on April 27, 2022, 01:08:27 AM
I ran Zens checker today for an address across the road, it too said 300 is available.  Ducting for my DP is due over the next few days, will be curious how quickly they get fibre in after that.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on April 27, 2022, 11:56:57 AM
@gt94sss2 looks like all poles are going up to the stage of pre-CBT.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on May 09, 2022, 03:06:25 PM
OR are installing fibre down Replingham Road today.

In addition, at the end of last week, OR stripped the external/protective cover and exposed the fibre on Pirbright Road. Hopefully, the weather won't damage the fibre! (Pic attached)

Also, at the end of last week, a relative saw Community Fibre on Pirbright Road and was told "it will be active in a week but they will send letters in 3 months" - looks as if they were checking the ducts.

Standen Road also has CF CBTs appearing (2nd pic)


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(Not sure how to embed pics into the post!)
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: burakkucat on May 09, 2022, 04:09:42 PM
(Not sure how to embed pics into the post!)

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Then left-clicking on the thumbnail displayed will bring up the full-size image.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on May 09, 2022, 05:34:29 PM
Usage of [img]https://ibb.co/V25MdXj[/img] and [img]https://ibb.co/dr8F8bV[/img] will not work.

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There's literally the BBCode on those pages that will do the job.
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Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on May 11, 2022, 06:28:03 PM
Usage of [img]https://ibb.co/V25MdXj[/img] and [img]https://ibb.co/dr8F8bV[/img] will not work.

Thanks - that's what I tried..


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And this is what I wanted to achieve!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on May 11, 2022, 06:32:21 PM
And indeed, fibre has been run to the remaining telegraph poles today but without the CBTs.

Looks as if I was wrong. The fibre belongs to Community Fibre and their CBTs appeared today - attached to the fibre I took a picture of a couple of days ago but not yet installed at the top of the poles.

Looks like OR might lose a lot of customers here, if they don't hurry up!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on May 11, 2022, 07:28:07 PM
FTTP on Mexfield etc is definitely Openreach. Just waiting for those CBTs
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on May 16, 2022, 01:30:43 PM
Community Fibre are going down Standen Road, splicing the fibre into the CBTs.

They have closed the road and have a hoist, so I guess they will be putting them at the top of the poles as well.

Nothing is showing on one.network though, so I wonder if they have told the Council!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on May 17, 2022, 07:17:12 PM
Community Fibre are going down Standen Road, splicing the fibre into the CBTs.

Community Fibre did the same to Pirbright Road today and both streets are available for ordering via their website.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on May 18, 2022, 04:36:50 PM
Mexfield: they are installing the CBTs today!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on May 18, 2022, 08:23:24 PM
Mexfield: they are installing the CBTs today!

Interesting to see how long until they go live.

As above, Community Fibre went live either the same day or within 24 hours.

I suspect Openreach need to fit a new PON before Pirbright sees any CBTs.

Replingham Road has them busy fitting tobys (they are fed underground)
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on May 19, 2022, 09:05:28 PM
Mexfield has been done now, hopefully FTTP should be available to these roads I would think very soon!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on June 09, 2022, 12:28:30 PM
Instalcom who seem to be doing most of the fibre installation work in this area for Openreach are still very visible in the Southfields/West Hill area.

OR also have quite a few jobs planned over the next few weeks for installing new duct and clearing blockages on the roadworks website.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 09, 2022, 02:40:12 PM
Its well over six months, maybe even a year since some areas round here were fibred - nothing is available to order yet.

I kinda feel like the people who got fibre ducted then were able to order within a few weeks are the exception rather than the rule.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Derpy on June 09, 2022, 09:17:49 PM
Still not able to order it.

My street (in Scotland mind you) was CBT'ed in April and I still cant order.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on June 10, 2022, 01:48:40 PM
Replingham Road (or at least part of it)  and the 1 CBT installed on Pirbright Road have gone live for orders.

Am surprised their initial rollout wasn't for a wider area covering more of the exchange.

The upgrade offers on the BT website for the person I know who lives on Replingham Road are very odd though and seriously undercut by Community Fibre..

They are currently out of contract on Fibre 1 but receive upto 80MB due to the free speed upgrades BT gave a while back

(https://i.ibb.co/c6j8YR6/IMG-20220610-141300.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c6j8YR6)

Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on June 15, 2022, 01:45:10 PM
Rollout is continuing at a rapid pace. Lots of CBTs up now.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on June 15, 2022, 10:08:10 PM
Yes, have spotted FTTP went live on Crowthorne Close last week as well.

In Pirbright Road, the one pole they CBT'd previously has gone live as above and on Monday one other pole was "pre-CBT'ed - though they left two poles in between alone, despite having run fibre to them.

A lot more ducting work seems to be planned.. definitely making progress though. Even if there is no rhyme or reason that one can see!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on June 22, 2022, 10:10:19 AM
They pre CBTed the remaining telegraph poles on Pirbright Road yesterday and are now ducting the road between the last DP and the properties which have never had a DP..

Interesting to see how the tennis impacts the rollout locally.. the number of planned civil works has certainly reduced..

Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on June 27, 2022, 01:20:06 AM
Last Friday, the CBTs were put in place and they had finished the new ducting.

As of this morning, the whole of Pirbright Road can order OR FTTP!

I've always been particularly interested in this road, as it is served by 2 PCPs.

One where customers where fed from underground who got good FTTP speeds and the majority who got slower speeds and were served by pole with that PCP being much further away.

The two sides were always separated but the new ducting has finally connected the sides together in ORs network.

Community Fibre had already connected the pole premises to their network. I presume they will be along shortly to take advantage of ORs new ducting as well!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on June 27, 2022, 04:07:05 PM
Hopefully you won't need to wait much longer.

Black sheep has an interesting post here (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,26843.msg454260.html#msg454260) about the order in which Openreach usually light fibre..

OR are about a month ahead of the forecast they provided list year in enabling this area
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on July 03, 2022, 10:54:26 AM
Still can't order it
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on July 03, 2022, 11:38:52 AM
Still can't order it

Considering the hard time you gave Max for obsessing over their connection, you're behaving awfully similar.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on July 03, 2022, 11:53:16 AM
Considering the hard time you gave Max for obsessing over their connection, you're behaving awfully similar.

Couldn't give a toss mate
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: kitz on July 03, 2022, 09:45:12 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: burakkucat on July 03, 2022, 10:26:36 PM
<sigh>  :no:
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on July 04, 2022, 09:08:03 AM
One wonders what the hold up might be, there is work going on a few roads over, I wonder if they are going to turn it all on at the same time?
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on July 04, 2022, 09:09:11 AM
Hopefully you won't need to wait much longer.

Black sheep has an interesting post here (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,26843.msg454260.html#msg454260) about the order in which Openreach usually light fibre..

OR are about a month ahead of the forecast they provided list year in enabling this area

Thank you for this, I suppose these locations are quite far out so the order makes sense. Let's hope by the end of July we'll be in prime position to order.

Take my money Openreach!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: gt94sss2 on July 07, 2022, 07:14:18 PM
One wonders what the hold up might be, there is work going on a few roads over, I wonder if they are going to turn it all on at the same time?

As well as the work on Oakhill Road this week to fit tobys and new ducting, Openreach have some duct clearing activity planned for Mexfield Road early next week.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on July 08, 2022, 02:25:45 AM
One wonders what the hold up might be, there is work going on a few roads over, I wonder if they are going to turn it all on at the same time?

Streets close to me were fibred up months ago but only went live just before they did my DP, which went live almost immediately.

Blacksheep has covered this time and time again, there's a lot of moving parts and just because your street is done, doesn't mean the link all the way back to the exchange is, or that the equipment for the exchange is even in yet due to component shortages.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on July 11, 2022, 07:59:39 PM
Streets close to me were fibred up months ago but only went live just before they did my DP, which went live almost immediately.

Blacksheep has covered this time and time again, there's a lot of moving parts and just because your street is done, doesn't mean the link all the way back to the exchange is, or that the equipment for the exchange is even in yet due to component shortages.

Thanks, hopefully by the end of the year we'll have more to report!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on July 11, 2022, 10:04:31 PM
Best of luck, it really is a revelation moving from FTTC to FTTP.  I thought my line was relatively clean yet its performing night/day different.

DSL has never been as responsive as my friend on Cable the entire time I've had it, now it is.  The difference compared to a dodgy line should be all the more obvious.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on July 19, 2022, 01:41:05 PM
I think we'll be going live shortly, FTTP On Demand now showing up to 1000Mbps which I think is the final step before ordering becomes available?
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on July 19, 2022, 01:42:03 PM
Oh, misread it.

We're live! Ordering available!

Wahey!
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: burakkucat on July 19, 2022, 03:46:31 PM
Congratulations.  :)
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: GigabitEthernet on August 08, 2022, 10:31:05 AM
Ours now installed, 500Mbps and done in two hours. Seamless.
Title: Re: Wandsworth FTTP rollout
Post by: burakkucat on August 08, 2022, 04:21:13 PM
Ours now installed, 500Mbps and done in two hours. Seamless.

Excellent news.  :)

Let's hope you don't experience an "ELF".