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Broadband Related => FTTP Rollout => Topic started by: dee.jay on March 07, 2022, 07:05:50 PM

Title: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: dee.jay on March 07, 2022, 07:05:50 PM
So just reading that our MP met with Openreach last week, and was informed that 87,000 homes and businesses will have access to FTTP by the end of this year, £30m investment.

Happy days

 :fingers:  :)

Guess I wonít bother with an FTTPoD order now. Even better.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on March 07, 2022, 09:54:31 PM
Worth noting, you might want to consider putting pfSense on bare-metal before then.  Seen a fair few people claiming the latency is lower and throughput a lot higher than in a VM.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: kjw on March 08, 2022, 12:54:32 PM
That's not true for me now, I realised passing through the NIC resolved it and now have the same latency as if it was running bare metal.

I am using a recent Intel i350 quad port adaptor though, via ESXi (with an older i7 6700)
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: terrencem on March 08, 2022, 09:30:45 PM
The early surveying work ,in Bridgend County at least, has started already. Last week 4-5 Openreach vans were parked in my street and half a dozen OR workmen were rodding the ducts looking for blockages and pulling blue ropes through them. They said that FTTP is being installed in our area but couldn't give a date for it at this stage.
I was surprised to see them prepping my area for FTTP so soon (I'm on the Maesteg exchange), I would have thought that they would have done Bridgend Town or Port Talbot first.
Does anyone know how long it typically takes to go from this early stage to being able to order a fibre install. My current ISP contract is almost up and I'm wondering if I should have a new contract lasting just 12 months rather than 18 or 24 months.
Thanks. 
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on March 09, 2022, 01:39:26 AM
There is no "typical" for FTTP, could take a month or two, could take a year.  Though I'd certainly hope not the latter, its not unheard of.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: Black Sheep on March 09, 2022, 10:58:29 AM

I was surprised to see them prepping my area for FTTP so soon (I'm on the Maesteg exchange), I would have thought that they would have done Bridgend Town or Port Talbot first.

Thanks.

Maesteg looks to be 2/3 'manual survey complete' stage, with approx 1/3 left to be surveyed.

It sounds like you lie within the 2/3 terrencem, especially if work has started such as the 'Test, Rod & Rope' work you mention below.
If that is the case, a typical turnaround for Openreach to build the PON (120 premises maximum per PON, usually) ... is approximately 10 weeks. There are many, many variables that can alter this forecast, but I'd say it's around 70-80% accurate.

There is then a a period of dwell time with the service providers once Openreach hand the PON over as 'Customer Ready For Service'. Trying to give exact dates is like trying to work out what is going on in Putin's head.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: dee.jay on March 09, 2022, 02:29:14 PM
Black Sheep, sorry to ask you directly but do you have any information on the Aberkenfig exchange? That is where I am.

There are streets around me that have had FTTP for some time, but I'm torn about going FTTPoD
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: dee.jay on March 09, 2022, 02:54:51 PM
The early surveying work ,in Bridgend County at least, has started already. Last week 4-5 Openreach vans were parked in my street and half a dozen OR workmen were rodding the ducts looking for blockages and pulling blue ropes through them. They said that FTTP is being installed in our area but couldn't give a date for it at this stage.
I was surprised to see them prepping my area for FTTP so soon (I'm on the Maesteg exchange), I would have thought that they would have done Bridgend Town or Port Talbot first.
Does anyone know how long it typically takes to go from this early stage to being able to order a fibre install. My current ISP contract is almost up and I'm wondering if I should have a new contract lasting just 12 months rather than 18 or 24 months.
Thanks.

There are a few areas in Bridgend that have Virgin Media - maybe they aren't rushing to go do Bridgend town as quickly because of that.

Not sure, I'm speculating admittedly.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: terrencem on March 09, 2022, 03:28:46 PM

If that is the case, a typical turnaround for Openreach to build the PON (120 premises maximum per PON, usually) ... is approximately 10 weeks. There are many, many variables that can alter this forecast, but I'd say it's around 70-80% accurate.


Thanks for that.
That's quite a bit faster than I would have expected. I'll go for 12 month contract rather than a 18 or 24 month one or get one where I can change to a FTTP product without penalty.
I'd be interested in FTTP more for the reliability aspect rather than the speed, thanks to vectoring being enabled on my cab I can get about 55mbps, but a couple of years ago I had a nightmare 6 months where I would be getting up to a dozen or more resyncs a day. It took about ten engineer visits to find and fix it.
Again, Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: Black Sheep on March 09, 2022, 08:02:01 PM
Black Sheep, sorry to ask you directly but do you have any information on the Aberkenfig exchange? That is where I am.

There are streets around me that have had FTTP for some time, but I'm torn about going FTTPoD

Not a problem, will have a look when I'm back in tomorrow mate.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: dee.jay on March 09, 2022, 08:40:43 PM
Thank you, sir. That is much appreciated!
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: Black Sheep on March 10, 2022, 01:12:47 PM
Black Sheep, sorry to ask you directly but do you have any information on the Aberkenfig exchange? That is where I am.

There are streets around me that have had FTTP for some time, but I'm torn about going FTTPoD

Hi mate - similar reply to a PM I've replied to earlier today on here - you are in the same boat as myself at the moment I'm afraid, only 'New sites', 'Retro New Sites' and 'LFFN' projects have FTTP in Aberkenfig. Nothing in place as yet,  for the remainder of premises that I have sight of.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: dee.jay on March 10, 2022, 02:16:20 PM
Damn. Oh well, thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: terrencem on March 10, 2022, 04:54:29 PM
Damn. Oh well, thanks for looking!

It might me worthwhile putting your postcode into the netomnia checker (https://www.netomnia.com/).
According the this news item on ispreview.co.uk on December 2nd, they are rolling out their own FTTP network. Just in Bridgend town at first but eventually the whole of Bridgend county.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: dee.jay on March 20, 2022, 08:50:14 PM
Yeah tried my postcode and "not in your area".

I did come to a final decision on FTTPoD - can't justify it - so will simply wait until it's rolled out.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: dee.jay on May 25, 2022, 11:02:40 AM
I actually reached out to YouFibre: -

I've just checked some details with our build team, and at present your address is still in the planning stages. Which means that unfortunately I can't give a clear answer as to whether or not we will be expanding into your address after the work is completed in Bridgend. I'm sure you probably know but there are lots of moving parts in laying the network and while Netomnia are still planning their roll out it could be a variable amount of time before the work is completed.
 
What I would suggest however is if you have registered your interest on the website, we will notify you once we are at the actual building stage in the area. At which point we can give a much clearer idea of when you will be ready to place an order.
 
Sorry as this is probably not what you wanted to hear but rest assured we are certainly interested in getting you ready for service as soon as possible.


Keep on waiting then
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: dee.jay on June 01, 2022, 08:19:37 AM
So, tracking bidb.uk - Netomnia (YouFibre) have been gradually moving north through Bridgend with roadworks.

On the road behind my house: -

install FW6 chamber in footway, linking ducts to existing BT chamber

And this there are a few of these heading towards the exchange.

I take it this is good news? :)

Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: dee.jay on June 01, 2022, 10:35:53 AM
And this morning whilst out shopping spotted a Netomnia van about half a mile or so from where I live. That would definitely be on the same exchange as me - so yes looks like itís on the way.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: Mark07 on June 01, 2022, 11:29:37 AM
Lots of Bridgend already RFS and lots almost there, PM me your postcode if you want and i'll see what I can see
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: burakkucat on June 01, 2022, 03:25:49 PM
I take it this is good news? :)

Yes, indeed.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: terrencem on June 21, 2022, 07:56:23 PM
An update on FTTP progress on the Maesteg exchange. Lots of digging and duct laying, a couple of contractors fixed a 'pole bend' on the pole outside my house just this afternoon. I've also seen a few CBT's going up on poles.
One strange thing I have noticed, looking at bidb.uk , there is lots of activity planned for Llangynwyd (where I am), Cwmfelin, Garth and Maesteg itself, but nothing north of Maesteg.
This is odd as Nantyffyllon and Caerau are on the Maesteg exchange. Is it possible that the area south of Maesteg will have FTTP available and enabled first or will there be a delay while the area north of the town gets fibred up?
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: j0hn on June 21, 2022, 08:16:26 PM
Is it possible that the area south of Maesteg will have FTTP available and enabled first or will there be a delay while the area north of the town gets fibred up?

Very rare for them to hold up 1 area going live to wait on another area going live, unless both areas are waiting on something further upstream.

Under normal circumstances the area to the South would go live 1st.
Title: Re: Bridgend FTTP rollout
Post by: Black Sheep on June 22, 2022, 10:47:12 AM
An update on FTTP progress on the Maesteg exchange. Lots of digging and duct laying, a couple of contractors fixed a 'pole bend' on the pole outside my house just this afternoon. I've also seen a few CBT's going up on poles.
One strange thing I have noticed, looking at bidb.uk , there is lots of activity planned for Llangynwyd (where I am), Cwmfelin, Garth and Maesteg itself, but nothing north of Maesteg.
This is odd as Nantyffyllon and Caerau are on the Maesteg exchange. Is it possible that the area south of Maesteg will have FTTP available and enabled first or will there be a delay while the area north of the town gets fibred up?

It all depends on capacity of existing spine-fibres, as to how the roll-out plan will be put in place, and what is lit first ?.

OR would normally build from the Exchange outwards, so the PON's closest to the Exchange on (we'll call it 'Spine A') would be lit first, followed by the rest of the PON's on 'Spine A' moving outwards.
Whilst this is occurring, civils and cabling/splicing work would be in play pulling in Spine B, Spine C ... etc etc.

I can see that a large number of PON's have been manually surveyed around the middle of the Maesteg area ... and a large number of surveys created, but yet to be manually surveyed around the outer regions .... including Nantyffyllon and Caerau.