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Broadband Related => FTTP Rollout => Topic started by: Reformed on January 13, 2022, 12:10:55 PM

Title: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on January 13, 2022, 12:10:55 PM
Remember a post or two on here about Wakefield so here's the latest.

CityFibre break ground in Flanshaw next month, then are making a beeline down Broadway with spurs going down side roads through Lupset to provide FTTP to homes and businesses not on the new ring route.
Virgin Media O2 are overbuilding the cable network with FTTP in Eastmoor.
Openreach are all over having suddenly taking more of an interest in the city itself in the past couple of weeks after Wakefield Council announced a deal with CityFibre in December.

Pure coincidence I'm sure.  ;)
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: stevebrass on January 13, 2022, 03:53:21 PM
Looks like a bit of competition is working wonders!
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: burakkucat on January 13, 2022, 03:57:13 PM
Remember a post or two on here about Wakefield so here's the latest.

Yes, there were a few in the past. So thank you for this latest update.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on January 17, 2022, 02:16:45 PM
Game on. Local authorities playing anchor tenant does work.

(https://i.ibb.co/WVqYq0J/image-2022-01-17-141450.png)
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: burakkucat on January 17, 2022, 04:16:43 PM
A busy looking map.  :)
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on January 17, 2022, 08:45:23 PM
I wish it looked like that round here, the jobs are REALLY spread out and seem to be moving further away from me again. :(

Annoyingly my bit of the road has been recently made a bus route and I fear that may have delayed my bit due to the extra logistical challenges.

Though all the properties from the aggregation node along the ducting on that side of the road are also DIG to maisonettes which possibly dropped its priority, even though that duct also junctions across to the houses and my DP on the other side.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on January 18, 2022, 12:50:00 PM
Netomnia are also starting in the city this month - PIA work on a main road.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Mark07 on January 21, 2022, 04:13:29 PM
Indeed, YouFibre will be the ISP for it
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on January 29, 2022, 04:10:45 PM
Indeed. Already had a brief conversation with YouFibre on this one. Would be good to get a diverse supplier using different equipment even though the fibre will almost certainly follow the same route.

Insane amounts of work now as CityFibre keep putting in their works to install their metro network in the east of the city, Netomnia continue to build out their spine and the suddenly far more enthusiastic Openreach have 15-20 works going on simultaneously.

(https://i.ibb.co/ZWtz0bQ/Wakefield-FTTP.jpg)
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Bowdon on January 30, 2022, 05:13:06 PM
Wow phone icon overload  :)
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on January 31, 2022, 08:06:36 AM
Wow, they aren't messing about.  Its MUCH quieter than that round here despite CityFibre, Openreach, Virgin and mobile operators all doing work.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on February 12, 2022, 06:38:30 PM
Tons more Openreach and CityFibre works, Netomnia are building out their spine.

City itself should go from single digits FTTP to 50% in 6 months.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on February 15, 2022, 06:50:09 PM
The exact nature of the works by the way: Netomnia is all PIA, they're unblocking ducts in a few places, CityFibre is largely PIA - they are also unblocking Openreach ducts accessing poles.

CityFibre are also installing some new poles. Looks as though they'll build out the spine in their own trenching and then, where possible, use PIA on the leaves to get closer to and indeed connect customers.
Minimal overlap between Openreach work and CF/NO for now. NO apparently have less going on however they are building spine with PIA and have broken ground, CF have not.

Think in some cases the three of them must have rodded ducts, found blockages, then waiting to see if one of the others will fix it. ;D

Netomnia are further through the build but CF are really throwing resources at it in a couple of weeks. It's insane and much of it relates to Openreach infrastructure, whether poles, unblocking of their ducts or a dig across a road to get to a private road via core drilling into a BT pit.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: gt94sss2 on February 15, 2022, 07:10:51 PM
Think in some cases the three of them must have rodded ducts, found blockages, then waiting to see if one of the others will fix it. ;D

I'm sure that is happening here. Community Fibre were busy rolling out in the area and then stopped. They are now letting OR carry out their own civil works, before they plan to come back and install some more FTTP
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on February 15, 2022, 09:44:58 PM
I'm sure that is happening here. Community Fibre were busy rolling out in the area and then stopped. They are now letting OR carry out their own civil works, before they plan to come back and install some more FTTP

That probably explains why CF are being slow here too, let Openreach roll theirs out first.

It might seem foolish on the surface as most people once on OR FTTP I can't see symmetrical being appealing enough for them to pay another install fee, but maybe they will waive the install fee based on how much they saved from NOT having to clear blockages?
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on March 05, 2022, 07:38:57 PM
First Netomnia / YouFibre goes live next month.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on March 20, 2022, 09:20:24 PM
CityFibre builds in west of city proper and Ossett. Openreach in Wrenthorpe, Normanton, Pontefract, Castleford and some surrounding villages. Netomnia build slowed in Wakefield, some resources moved to Pontefract by the looks.

For whatever reason despite being a 'trial' area Wakefield is most definitely not getting special attention as far as VM's XGSPON overbuild goes - bits of Kirklees are getting far more love very locally and further afield Barnsley and especially Sheffield are seeing far more relevant work.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on April 02, 2022, 09:40:45 PM
Timescale for Netomnia / YouFibre probably pushing back from the original March/April. Exchange nowhere near ready yet so even if the fibre cabling were available it'll be unlit for right now.

Netomnia can't give a timescale. The entire Wakefield area is still 'being planned'.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: S.Stephenson on April 03, 2022, 07:34:27 PM
Seem to be quite active in Pontefract at the moment a place where openreach has no plans.

Could be a case of waiting for Openreach or Cityfibre to sort out the ducts and save a bunch of money.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on April 04, 2022, 02:23:08 PM
No chance. Sounds attractive however also means you'll be getting at the ducts after Openreach/CityFibre and in Openreach's case they can probably get customers live pretty rapidly after getting their equipment in there.

CityFibre are a different matter. They aren't going to have anywhere live for a while I don't think - they're busy building their metro network out while using existing ducts and poles to reach customers once they've dug next to them. Netomnia are relying far more on PIA, CF are only using it for customer drops.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: gt94sss2 on April 04, 2022, 04:36:28 PM
Could be a case of waiting for Openreach or Cityfibre to sort out the ducts and save a bunch of money.

Wouldn't surprise me. Community Fibre seem to be doing this in Wandsworth.

I assume they are working on the basis that they expect to be able to light up their network faster then Openreach in this area.
Title: Re: Wakefield FTTP
Post by: Reformed on April 06, 2022, 06:45:29 PM
Bunch more Netomnia works in Wakefield proper now. New chambers, duct repair and here and there, shhh, new poles.