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Title: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 12:54:57 PM
I am trying to stop using the supplied EE Smart Router as I have a Google Nest Wifi setup.  I have purchased a known working HG612 and followed the settings shown in this thread over on the EE forum.
https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-home-phone/EE-Broadband-with-Huawei-HG612-modem-router/td-p/890757
Can anyone help me get the DSL connection to work, and at the moment it will not connect so I have no internet. :'(
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: meritez on December 31, 2021, 01:13:18 PM
@TylerDurden,

Welcome to Kitz forum, do you have vdsl sync on the hg612?
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 01:37:46 PM
I will check. Which page is that on?
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 01:43:57 PM
@TylerDurden,

Welcome to Kitz forum, do you have vdsl sync on the hg612?
Perhaps I'm not understanding, but I can't find a setting to enable this, and I can't see any mention of it.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: g3uiss on December 31, 2021, 02:03:20 PM
Are the three leds all on steady ?
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: g3uiss on December 31, 2021, 02:04:54 PM
Are you trying to use this as a router ????
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 02:12:52 PM
The DSL light never comes on. Only power and Lan2.
I want to use it as a modem only.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: licquorice on December 31, 2021, 02:33:46 PM
Then there is no need to configure anything, it is plug and play with factory default settings.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 02:38:45 PM
Then there is no need to configure anything, it is plug and play with factory default settings.

I have read that, but that certainly did not work for me.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: RealAleMadrid on December 31, 2021, 02:40:27 PM
The EE forum setup is to use it as a router, to use it as a modem just do a full reset( hold the reset button in for a long time ) to get to the default state which is a modem.

You then have the problem of getting the Google Nest to operate as a PPPoE router and enter the EE username and password in it. It can be done but from reports I have seen it isn't particularly easy. Probably best to put your EE router back and do some googling to find out how to do it. :)

@Licquorice  The HG612 is plug and play but the Google Nest is not and can be a real pain to get working as a router. :no:
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: licquorice on December 31, 2021, 02:43:50 PM
Agreed, but until there is DSL sync on the HG612, the OP is going nowhere. I was only referring to the HG612 as being plug and play.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: g3uiss on December 31, 2021, 02:46:09 PM
If OP has changed default settings it won’t sync. Restore to default and it should sync and all lights should be on.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 02:48:55 PM
The EE forum setup is to use it as a router, to use it as a modem just do a full reset( hold the reset button in for a long time ) to get to the default state which is a modem.

You then have the problem of getting the Google Nest to operate as a PPPoE router and enter the EE username and password in it. It can be done but from reports I have seen it isn't particularly easy. Probably best to put your EE router back and do some googling to find out how to do it. :)

@Licquorice  The HG612 is plug and play but the Google Nest is not and can be a real pain to get working as a router. :no:

Can I use the GUI option to reset instead of the long button push?
I'm happy to try again, but I have yet to see the DSL light lit, with any settings. Would you expect this to be lit even before the router has been connected?
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: j0hn on December 31, 2021, 02:50:11 PM
I have read that, but that certainly did not work for me.

Reset to factory defaults. Plug it in. Connect router.
There is zero configuration required.

These came locked down with no ability to change settings so they HAD to be pre configured.

If after resetting it you have no sync then it's broken.
If after resetting it you have sync but no internet then the issue is with your router.

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I'm happy to try again, but I have yet to see the DSL light lit, with any settings. Would you expect this to be lit even before the router has been connected?

Yes. It should sync.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 02:57:48 PM
Reset to factory defaults. Plug it in. Connect router.
There is zero configuration required.

These came locked down with no ability to change settings so they HAD to be pre configured.

If after resetting it you have no sync then it's broken.
If after resetting it you have sync but no internet then the issue is with your router.

Yes. It should sync.
Can I reset using the gui option, or do I need to long press the button?
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: j0hn on December 31, 2021, 03:01:48 PM
I think that works. It's been a while since I used an HG612.
It will definitely negotiate sync with the DSLAM in its default state.
It's configured as a plug and play bridge mode modem. Just connect a router to LAN 1 and away you go.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: licquorice on December 31, 2021, 03:09:49 PM
@TylerDurden Just another thought. Do you have G.Fast or just normal FTTC? If the former, the HG612 won't work.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 03:12:29 PM
Ok. I have reset the Hg612 but no DSL light is on. The XDSL page just shows "initializing"

@licquorice I have a 140mb connection. That's probably G.Fast isn't it!
Oh well, what modem should I have bought?
I have an ebay search active for the vmg8324-b10a,vmg8924-b10a and vmg1312-b10a. Would they work?

Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: j0hn on December 31, 2021, 03:20:24 PM
Yes you have G.Fast. It won't work.
The HG612 only has 100Mb ports. It was released years before G.Fast was even invented.

The Openreach version for G.Fast is a Huawei MT992.
They can't be unlocked though.

None of the 3 you mention there will work either.

There are other G.Fast modems available. Search for "G.Fast modem". They are usually £100+
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: meritez on December 31, 2021, 05:22:14 PM
Ok. I have reset the Hg612 but no DSL light is on. The XDSL page just shows "initializing"

@licquorice I have a 140mb connection. That's probably G.Fast isn't it!
Oh well, what modem should I have bought?
I have an ebay search active for the vmg8324-b10a,vmg8924-b10a and vmg1312-b10a. Would they work?

Xmg3927
Vmg8825
Mt992
Draytek vigor 166

Couple of options above.

Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 05:47:32 PM
Xmg3927
Vmg8825
Mt992
Draytek vigor 166

Couple of options above.

Thanks. I have seen a Vigor 167 too. Would that work?
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: licquorice on December 31, 2021, 05:54:56 PM
https://www.draytek.com/products/vigor167/#specs

No
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: g3uiss on December 31, 2021, 05:58:55 PM
That’s NOT g fast
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2021, 08:24:30 PM
Thanks for the help guys.

I just picked up a Zyxel XMG3927-B50A on ebay.
I'll probably need help setting that up when it arrives!.

Hope it was a good choice. 🤞
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: Weaver on December 31, 2021, 10:35:42 PM
Welcome to the forum. You’ve come to the right place. Any help, just ask.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: smallal on January 02, 2022, 11:09:50 PM
Xmg3927
Vmg8825
Mt992
Draytek vigor 166

Couple of options above.
I don't think the VMG8825 supports G.Fast, the spec only mentions ADSL & VDSL.
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: meritez on January 03, 2022, 02:00:26 AM
I don't think the VMG8825 supports G.Fast, the spec only mentions ADSL & VDSL.

Hi smallal, this manual agrees with you: https://manual-hub.com/manuals/zyxel-vmg8825-bx0a-02-pdf-manual/

It states only the xmg3927 supports g.fast, even though both devices use the same broadcom chipset...
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: tubaman on January 03, 2022, 09:09:04 AM
Hi smallal, this manual agrees with you: https://manual-hub.com/manuals/zyxel-vmg8825-bx0a-02-pdf-manual/

It states only the xmg3927 supports g.fast, even though both devices use the same broadcom chipset...
From what I've seen of Zyxel modem/router model numbers AMGxxxx = ADSL, VMGxxxx = ADSL/VDSL, XMGxxxx  = ADSL/VDSL/G.Fast.
 :)
Title: Re: HG612 - DSL Disconnected - Please help me with my settings for EE
Post by: j0hn on January 03, 2022, 11:19:12 AM
It states only the xmg3927 supports g.fast, even though both devices use the same broadcom chipset...

Not sure what those particular Zyxels use but the likes of the Broadcom BCM63138 comes in quite a few variants, including G.Fast and non G.Fast supporting versions.

The Technicolour DGA4130 I bought 2-3 years ago had a BCM63138 but the chipset didn't support G.Fast.

Broadcom have done that kind of thing for years unfortunately.