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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: broadstairs on June 11, 2021, 09:46:59 AM

Title: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: broadstairs on June 11, 2021, 09:46:59 AM
Anyone know why I am unable to access the BT DSL chcecker it has been saying not available when you enter details now for 2 days.

Stuart
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: Ronski on June 11, 2021, 10:16:16 AM
I get the same, had this a little while ago, not sure when but perhaps they are updating it, or someone has over loaded it  ;)
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: kitz on June 11, 2021, 10:28:04 AM
Working for me although

https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/

redirects to the new url

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: broadstairs on June 11, 2021, 10:38:46 AM
Well I just tried again and it says "We are sorry but the checker is unavailable at the moment. Please try later" as a red text message when you enter your details + capture code and hit enter! I should have been clear the page comes up OK but then this happens!

Stuart
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: roseway on June 11, 2021, 10:41:29 AM
It worked OK for me a couple of minutes ago.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: RealAleMadrid on June 11, 2021, 10:44:50 AM
There's a thread on ThinkBroadband, it works for some people but has failed for several days for others, not sure how BT can explain that. ???
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: Bowdon on June 11, 2021, 11:13:14 AM
It works for me.

I wonder if it might be a cache issue?

See if you get the same result with a different browser, or clear cookies for that site on your current browser.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: bucklez on June 11, 2021, 12:51:59 PM
Works fine here too, although I only tried the address side not Number
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: broadstairs on June 11, 2021, 04:33:29 PM
Working for me on my phone with WiFi off.

Stuart
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: adslmax on June 11, 2021, 11:30:15 PM
The dsl checker are a pant hit and a miss. I never bother use this site. I use other one (but can't share here due to btw data protected)
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: Ronski on June 19, 2021, 04:13:42 PM
Well I just tried again and it says "We are sorry but the checker is unavailable at the moment. Please try later" as a red text message when you enter your details + capture code and hit enter! I should have been clear the page comes up OK but then this happens!

Stuart

I'm still getting exactly this, tried at work, and at home, and on my phone.

If I turn my phones wi-fi off it works, if I fire up a virtual machine and connect through a VPN, it works.

Is it possible they are blocking IP addresses which have used the service a little too much, not that I do many checks these days, especially from work?
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: adslmax on June 19, 2021, 06:27:10 PM
I have checked for Ronski

Same here with wifi at my house We are sorry but the checker is unavailable at the moment. Please try again later.
But no problem using 4G EE mobile without wifi.

Seem u're not the only one!
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 19, 2021, 08:27:04 PM
What about the link you provided before?
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http://www.dslcheckercat.bt.com/pls/adsl/ADSLChecker.TelephoneNumberOutput?TelNo=<number>&AEA=Y
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: adslmax on June 19, 2021, 08:57:18 PM
Alex - These still working but these might be taken off by BTw if many peoples using this
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: gt94sss2 on June 19, 2021, 11:21:15 PM
The address checker works for me, but the telephone checker doesn't recognise my number as a BT line - ever since we changed to digital voice for some reason.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 20, 2021, 02:50:13 PM
If there is no POTS service on the line, it wont have a number assigned to it.  I guess you'd need the service ID.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: Ronski on June 20, 2021, 05:19:59 PM
Seems they are now actively blocking IP addresses/ranges.

Quote from: Martin Pitt - Aquiss
Quote from: Ronski
As someone else said, is it possible they are blocking IP addresses which have used the service a little too much (and why block an ISP)

Yup they have confirmed they are. We have had to get a number of our IPs added to their whitelists this week via our BTW account manager.

Their blocks seem pretty wide too from what we can see, taking out complete IP ranges.

Link to above quote (https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/btsupplier/t/4686892-re-bt-wholesale-checker-hit-and-miss.html).

This course of action seems rather backwards, lets stop customers looking up what's available  :wall: Fair enough to temporarily ban IP addresses that are abusing the system, but this does not appear temporary.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: broadstairs on June 20, 2021, 05:26:00 PM
I'm pretty sure I have changed IP fairly recently as I had a few DLM interventions recently and I dont always get the same IP, so either the previous user was banned or they have another way to tell perhaps buy post code since it always works up to the point you enter the post code and hit enter  >:(

Stuart
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: adslmax on June 21, 2021, 02:09:47 AM
What about the link you provided before?
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http://www.dslcheckercat.bt.com/pls/adsl/ADSLChecker.TelephoneNumberOutput?TelNo=<number>&AEA=Y

Mine not working from this site, look BTw have blocked my IP address. The same goes to this site https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL (not working) and this site https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/ultrafast-full-fibre-broadband#fibrechecker (not working)

I be shocked if BTW and Openreach will blocked public IP address on permanently if all true.

A formal complaints to ofcom is my next action! They have NO RIGHTS to do this to public. I don't care if BTW or Openreach have the rights to blocked public IP Address!
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on June 21, 2021, 02:19:29 AM
Mine not working from this site, look BTw have blocked my IP address. The same goes to this site https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL (not working) and this site https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/ultrafast-full-fibre-broadband#fibrechecker (not working)

I be shocked if BTW and Openreach will blocked public IP address on permanently if all true.

A formal complaints to ofcom is my next action! They have NO RIGHTS to do this to public. I don't care if BTW or Openreach have the rights to blocked public IP Address!

What gives you the impression they have any obligation to give you access to THEIR database?

I'd wager at most they have to provide it to ISPs for them to lookup what product you can order, but beyond that its a courtesy.

If people are checking on it too often and using it to make everyones lives miserable, I can totally understand why they might decide to restrict it.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: roseway on June 21, 2021, 06:44:18 AM
Stop this now, Max. Read again what Alex said a couple of messages ago. This is very bad behaviour and it will get you into trouble again. You have no right to that information, and bypassing the BTW and Openreach protective measures will do nobody any good. Stop now!

[Admin note: This message referred to a message by adslmax which has now been deleted for legal reasons - roseway]

Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: tubaman on June 21, 2021, 10:38:49 AM
... They have NO RIGHTS to do this to public. I don't care if BTW or Openreach have the rights to blocked public IP Address!

If they believe it is being abused they have every right to block IP addresses to preserve their service.
Max, you have a good working service tied to a 12 month contract so have no reason to be continually checking the Openreach availability sites. Please, for the sake of your own health, stop doing this.
 :)
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: adslmax on June 28, 2021, 05:08:50 PM
Well, I got email from BTw as they are now blocked my IP Address for abused it.  :no:

http://www.dslcheckercat.bt.com/pls/adsl/ADSLChecker.TelephoneNumberOutput?TelNo=your phone number&AEA=Y (BLOCKED)
http://www.dslcheckercat.bt.com/adsl/ADSLChecker.AddressOutput?postcode=your postcode&buildingnumber=your door number (BLOCKED)
https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL (BLOCKED)
https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/AddressHome (BLOCKED)
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/ultrafast-full-fibre-broadband#fibrechecker (BLOCKED)

Oh well, that's it! I can't access all of it anymore
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: broadstairs on June 28, 2021, 05:14:28 PM
Well, I got email from BTw as they are now blocked my IP Address for abused it.  :no:

http://www.dslcheckercat.bt.com/pls/adsl/ADSLChecker.TelephoneNumberOutput?TelNo=your phone number&AEA=Y (BLOCKED)
http://www.dslcheckercat.bt.com/adsl/ADSLChecker.AddressOutput?postcode=your postcode&buildingnumber=your door number (BLOCKED)
https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL (BLOCKED)
https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/AddressHome (BLOCKED)
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/ultrafast-full-fibre-broadband#fibrechecker (BLOCKED)

Oh well, that's it! I can't access all of it anymore


Well I can't say I'm surprised you were warned. It is their service and they are entitled to do just what they have done.

Stuart
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: adslmax on June 28, 2021, 05:19:36 PM
Yeah they say any future check please contact your ISP if you need further enquired for your broadband availability checker.  :no:
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: roseway on June 28, 2021, 06:22:21 PM
You've been warned many times Max, so this outcome is no surprise. Don't let it happen again.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: kitz on June 29, 2021, 03:14:36 AM
It's probably no bad thing, because keep checking it was unproductive and was only fuelling your obsession with speeds.
You've been told numerous times how it works and it is only an estimate based on your existing speeds and/or neighbouring lines.  Once you had your g.fast connection there should have been absolutely no need to check it again.    Now that you are blocked I can only hope it will be better for your mental health by not  looking at estimated figures on a daily basis, that actually serves no purpose once the line is connected and without faults.

Although they say contact your ISP, I sincerely hope that you are not doing that either. 
There will come a point when your ISP will become hacked off with requests for availability or GEA tests. A one-man-band ISP such as your current service provider is likely to get fed up much sooner than the likes of PN who have many staff.. and will get annoyed at how time consuming this process is.   

From what I have seen so far, your current ISP has been quite accommodating and exceedingly fair over the g.fast upgrade.   Don't push your luck Max, and ruin any good will.  Everyone reaches a point when patience wears thin and I'd hate you to find yourself in a situation like the boy who cried wolf, who ends up getting no help when it is actually needed.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: adslmax on June 29, 2021, 04:08:05 AM
Oh well, not to worry! I still very happy with G.fast very lucky to have it stable 221/30 (no issues) as for btw checker, gea test I don't need it anymore. Knowing G.fast will be fine. :)

I do think it will do me good that BTw has blocked it for my own good.

Anyway I enjoying play around with Windows 11  ;D
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: kitz on June 29, 2021, 06:31:35 AM
Thats good to hear.  Glad that you have found something else to play with and actually use the connection.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: niemand on July 02, 2021, 11:20:30 AM
Well, I got email from BTw as they are now blocked my IP Address for abused it.  :no:

Oh well, that's it! I can't access all of it anymore

How, exactly, could BT Wholesale get your email address?
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: j0hn on July 02, 2021, 12:50:19 PM
I'll throw a guess that he emailed them asking why he was blocked and they simply replied.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: Ronski on July 02, 2021, 01:32:30 PM
The fact is loads of us are blocked, both here at work and at home I'm blocked Aquiss was also blocked but have been put on a white list - see thread on TBB.

It does seem rather extreme that so many have been blocked, I expect a good few were just checking for FTTP availability.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: niemand on July 03, 2021, 03:23:12 PM
Yes and no. The public shouldn't have had access to begin with: it's supposed to be for wholesale partners.

Seems strange doing it after all this time though I guess they were bored of a few, on dynamic IPs, generating loads of queries needlessly.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on July 03, 2021, 04:19:15 PM
Probably a good idea to check you aren't blocking your wholesale partners first though? ;)

Its especially a peculiar time as some people from said wholesale partners will still be working from home, which is presumably where Aquiss got caught out.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: niemand on July 03, 2021, 07:22:17 PM
Should put it behind login really, though whether that would complicate API checks I'm not sure.

Anyway by the by. Doesn't seem to be a clear pattern to it all - I can still access fine.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: g3uiss on July 03, 2021, 08:43:29 PM
Fortunately so can I from two public IP’s.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: j0hn on July 04, 2021, 11:39:04 AM
Aquiss were blocked on the CP version of the checker that is behind a login.
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: adslmax on July 04, 2021, 12:42:16 PM
I can access BTw checker from my mobile but not on PC (still blocked to static ip address)
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: g3uiss on July 04, 2021, 12:43:41 PM
Do you need to access it ?
Title: Re: BT DSL Checker not available
Post by: adslmax on July 04, 2021, 12:51:35 PM
Do you need to access it ?

That's the day when BTw blocked it. I checked via my mobile it wasn't blocked that's was it. Just last time I checked.