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Broadband Related => FTTP Rollout => Topic started by: Alex Atkin UK on June 07, 2021, 07:31:50 PM
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Just curious, does this type of pole have to be completely replaced for FTTP?
How exactly do they go about it?
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No, Openreach have developed a CBT to go inside the hollow poles.
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Ah, a hollow pole. I'm sure there is a way that they can be used.
I think it best to wait for a comment from someone who is employed in the field of FTTP deployment. ;)
[Edit: The answer has already appeared . . . my paws are slow today.]
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Interesting, it must be extremely optimised compared to the on-pole variety as they look pretty bulky.
I'm just curious as before one.network pulled descriptions of work, there were a few pole replacements showing in my area. But now a lot more work is going on and I can't tell what it is. Probably just rodding and roping, but have to kill the time somehow...
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No, Openreach have developed a CBT to go inside the hollow poles.
Indeed they have .... and it is affectionately referred to as a 'squid'. :)
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Indeed they have .... and it is affectionately referred to as a 'squid'. :)
I remember seeing a picture of one somewhere, sure it was TBB but cant find it now!
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https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/8620-a-walk-in-a-fibre-wonderland-pictures-of-fttp-roll-out-in-lingfield
Scroll down to 9 - Hollow Pole Manifold.
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There it is, knew someone would know :P
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Can see why they call it the Squid. ::)
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Speaking of pole replacements, you think they'd notifiy the ISPs that some customers might be facing downtime because of a pole replacement...
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Speaking of pole replacements, you think they'd notifiy the ISPs that some customers might be facing downtime because of a pole replacement...
No, I wouldn't.
Over the last 100+ years, many poles have been replaced without disturbing the active services running on the infrastructure so supported by the pole(s).
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Speaking of pole replacements, you think they'd notifiy the ISPs that some customers might be facing downtime because of a pole replacement...
Why would you give a user a reason to ask for compensation?
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I know a location that is rolling out FTTP soon that has these.
Google maps btw.
(https://i.ibb.co/yFLcFZ6/CC313-DD6-5-F3-C-4483-A034-FE309-A2-F8-AAE.jpg)
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I know a location that is rolling out FTTP soon that has these.
That looks to be a electricity distribution pole and would be the property of the electricity supply company. If there is also any telecommunications infrastructure supported by it (it is difficult to make out), the pole would be used under the (obsolete) dual utilities pole sharing scheme.
The second image shows a mains electricity aerial drop.
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I'm always fascinated with electricity distribution as its something that in this country, at least unless you're rural, is largely hidden.
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Why would you give a user a reason to ask for compensation?
Compensation wouldn't enter the equation on a bog-standard pole replacement task - it's our furniture - if the pole has been deemed dangerous through decades of rot/decay, or needs increasing in size to attain the minimum height across carriageways, then we have to remedy this.
Of course, each pole situation is bespoke, but on the whole our contractors can crack off 2-3 pole changeouts a day. The time spent tracing each ISP on each pole, contacting them, who in turn would have to contact their own EU (otherwise it's a completely pointless exercise) ..... well, they'd have the pole swapped and moved on by then.
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And, also, the domestic telephony service or Internet access service is a "best effort" with no guarantee of 100% up-time.
If 100% up-time is essential then the appropriate product, with the requisite SLA, should have been ordered and a contract signed.
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There are definitely some with both on them.
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With both OR and PIA firms, using OR telephone poles for FTTP, I was wondering how many different FTTP infrastructure firms a single telephone poll can support before its "full"
Say you have a pole in a urban area with two bundles of legacy OR copper