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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: adslmax on June 05, 2021, 06:31:03 PM
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I am shocked when I am using electricity wall homeplug ethernet plugged in the back of Gfast router for my new CCTV upstair with other electricity wall homeplug ethernet as I can see dslstats on G.fast stats has very large ES, CRC as it was zero since May 25th install until today when using homeplug adaptor as the errors rocking up!
CRC: 22144
ES: 12118
That's for within 20 minutes of errors using homeplug ??? ??? :no: :no:
I take off homeplug and the errors has disappears!
Why Gfast router doesn't like homeplug?
I am so angry :rant: as it might end up DLM banded on the line for G.fast now with horror ES errors for goodness's sake. I can't believe it happen to Homeplug?
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We've discussed powerline adapters/homeplugs interfering with xDSL lots of times.
Some Homeplugs have a feature that tries to avoid the VDSL2 frequencies but even with that enabled they can cause issues.
G.Fast uses higher frequencies which can be affected more by external noise sources.
I expect all G.Fast modems to show similar.
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That's a good job I did noticed it on dslstats otherwise I wouldn't know nothing. I am disappointed can't use cctv system with 8 cctv cameras as I have to buy long ethernet cable straight to the cctv upwards from the downstair hallway to drill the wall. I have stopped using electricity homeplug now.
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Wow what a lot of CCTV cameras. Do you live in Fort Knox?
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Wow what a lot of CCTV cameras. Do you live in Fort Knox?
He has one that keeps an eye on his bedsit and 7 in his man drawer as backups. :D
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Wow what a lot of CCTV cameras. Do you live in Fort Knox?
2 at the back garden, 2 at the front garden, one in the shed, one at the front door and one at the back door and one at pc room
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@adslmax, if you're getting shocked you may need an electrician as that shouldn't happen.
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I dabbled with powerline a long time ago and vowed never to again.
Hardwire where you can, takes a bit more effort but you will reap the rewards from it for ever more!
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I dabbled with powerline a long time ago and vowed never to again.
Hardwire where you can, takes a bit more effort but you will reap the rewards from it for ever more!
Couldn't agree more. They are putting high frequency data signals down wires never intended for such a purpose, so it's not at all surprising that they cause so many issues. From a purely RFI perspective I think they should have been banned years ago.
:rant:
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Good news:
My gfast stats unchanged and doesn't affect by DLM banded by yesterday large CRC and ES errors. Thanks goodness! I have binned all electricity homeplugs never use again!
Latest 1 day time = 19 hours 9 min 33 sec
FEC: 9245 528964
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 2979303 750227
CRC: 22144 0
ES: 12118 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
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Good news:
My gfast stats unchanged and doesn't affect by DLM banded by yesterday large CRC and ES errors. Thanks goodness! I have binned all electricity homeplugs never use again!
I'm glad it's not upset anything. I wouldn't bin the Homeplugs as you can always get money for them on eBay etc. I know I don't like them but I also don't like electronic waste. ::)
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I'm glad it's not upset anything. I wouldn't bin the Homeplugs as you can always get money for them on eBay etc. I know I don't like them but I also don't like electronic waste. ::)
Plus their issues become null and void once FTTP comes along. They're only a problem with DSL.
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Plus their issues because null and void once FTTP comes along. They're only a problem with DSL.
How True! Might saved my homeplug in the cupboard until FTTP come
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Don't get me wrong, their performance is hit and miss, but if they performed as well as you needed then no reason not to use them once off DSL.
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Plus their issues become null and void once FTTP comes along. They're only a problem with DSL.
I think you'll find any local ham radio enthusiasts will have a different opinion ;)
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I think you'll find any local ham radio enthusiasts will have a different opinion ;)
Trouble is, HAM radio can mess up DSL too so I have no sympathy for people with an antiquated hobby that can interfere with people trying to get on with their day to day lives.
Seriously though, I will just be glad once everything switches to fibre so we can all be happy. Having technologies that can interfere with each other is just a horrible situation to be in.
If I'm being totally honest, I do think its valuable to continue to have legacy analog equipment out there, should something bad happen that kills all the modern digital stuff. The same reason I think its pretty short sighted to be getting rid of phone boxes. Were rushing to a future where we have no redundancy for emergencies.
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;) ;) So do we keep horses and bicycles for emergencies? The thing is that the new tech can be just as reliable as the old, better often. Horses are pretty unreliable in my experience. Refusing to go past piles of thorns because they look scary and then just going round in circles, scraping your leg against the hedge or going under a low branch to try and get you knocked off. ;)
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;) ;) So do we keep horses and bicycles for emergencies? The thing is that the new tech can be just as reliable as the old, better often. Horses are pretty unreliable in my experience. Refusing to go past piles of thorns because they look scary and then just going round in circles, scraping your leg against the hedge or going under a low branch to try and get you knocked off. ;)
I didn't say keep ALL technology. But it would take a much less intense EMP to fry digital technology than analog, especially if the analog is powered down at the time.
Bicycles are also still very useful, have an electric motor embedded in mine. Even when the battery fails I can still cycle it.
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This thread jumped to top of the list only because of another post made yesterday (but deleted) - hence the late reply
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It concerns me that Max has a CCTV system but has switched it off because the plugs were causing errors. Bearing in mind that I have a rough idea why he installed them in the first place, my worry is that in this case safety and security are being ignored for fear of the loss of some broadband speed. :(
I'm quite sure that his house isnt that large, but just wanted to check another solution has been found rather than just keeping the cameras off.
Is there not some sort of wireless relay system you can set up? I'm sure Max has plenty of other routers in his cupboard, so surely there is something that could even be set up quite cheaply.
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The same reason I think its pretty short sighted to be getting rid of phone boxes. Were rushing to a future where we have no redundancy for emergencies.
It is in a way... and we are.
But in another way, similar to how Max put his need for speed over safety & security, here we have a situation where cost has been put over possible emergency safety situations
I can understand that too as I'm sure there will be plenty of phone boxes which don't even have to be in the middle of nowhere, that are only used a couple of times per week. When was the last time you actually saw anyone actually using a phone box. I haven't used one since I got my first mobile phone sometime around 1997 and I think the only time I have seen people use public phones in about the past 10 yrs are to call a cab or those in hospitals.
It's not even the cost of keeping them there doing nothing, they soon become loss makers when you factor into the price of how much it must cost to employ someone to go round and empty the boxes that may only have a couple of quid in them. TBH if they were owned by a company other than BT/Openreach* I wouldn't mind placing a bet that most would be gone by now. :/
*with them being an incumbent rather than wholesome.
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This thread jumped to top of the list only because of another post made yesterday (but deleted) - hence the late reply
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It concerns me that Max has a CCTV system but has switched it off because the plugs were causing errors. Bearing in mind that I have a rough idea why he installed them in the first place, my worry is that in this case safety and security are being ignored for fear of the loss of some broadband speed. :(
I'm quite sure that his house isnt that large, but just wanted to check another solution has been found rather than just keeping the cameras off.
Is there not some sort of wireless relay system you can set up? I'm sure Max has plenty of other routers in his cupboard, so surely there is something that could even be set up quite cheaply.
A wireless bridge would be an easy solution. Perhaps