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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: maxheadroom on May 29, 2021, 06:01:54 PM
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Hi,
I tried to change the DNS server earlier on the Talk Talk hub using google DNS (pic 1) i saved the setting and when i rebooted the router i went back into the router settings to check if it worked i found the value had not changed under the "Device info" tab (pic 2) but the Google DNS was still listed as the DNS server when i clicked the DNS tab.
Could someone tell me what i am doing wrong, thanks.
Pic 1
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5VTjzVj/dns.jpg)
Pic 2
(https://i.postimg.cc/L6z4Y0w4/dns3.jpg)
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I don't think you have done anything wrong. :)
Your Pic 2 is showing what TalkTalk hands to the "hub", along with the public IPv4 address, when establishing the connection. You Pic 1 shows what the "hub" will actually use.
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Thanks for explaining, i thought the numbers in both boxes should match so thanks again.
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I'm sure there is a way of seeing what your system(s) actually use . . . but I can't think of anything simple, at the moment.
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From a command prompt ipconfig /all should show DNS in use by the network card. This is for PC, but I think Linux is the same.
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No worries if you say its now using google DNS i am happy with that.
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Thanks g3uiss that confirms it :thumbs:
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Wireless LAN adapter WiFi:
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This is strange i put the 1.1.1.1 earlier than changed to 8.8.8.8 but ipconfig/all is showing 1.1.1.1
Could i ask your views on Cloudflare 1.1.1.1
https://www.techradar.com/uk/reviews/cloudflare-dns
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I have tried the same on the laptop and it is showing 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 ???
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You might need to run ipconfig /flushdns or the previous settings will be cached
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You might need to run ipconfig /flushdns or the previous settings will be cached
Thanks i thought rebooting the PC may help and it has, thanks for your help and my apologies for spreading this through several posts.
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
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This is strange i put the 1.1.1.1 earlier than changed to 8.8.8.8 but ipconfig/all is showing 1.1.1.1
Could i ask your views on Cloudflare 1.1.1.1
https://www.techradar.com/uk/reviews/cloudflare-dns
I used to use Google but now I prefer Cloudflare as they also host my DNS so I can see changes quicker. I also trust them a darn site more than Google.
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Thanks, i used cloudflare for a while and cannot remember why i switched back to google, i will give it another go.
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On my talktalk connection google dns is slow according to DNS Benchmark.
https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm
talktalk dns is actual the fastest, not that I trust it.
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On my talktalk connection google dns is slow according to DNS Benchmark.
Same here.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRnPzkGC/bbbbb.jpg)
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I actually use DNS over TLS which is always slow compared to plain unencrypted DNS.
However as it happens on my router with plain DNS over the LAN, the routers cache more than makes up for the difference.
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Like an idiot i lost the settings that were originally in the router but a bit of searching came up with 79.79.79.79 + 79.79.79.80 so i switched and now get this so i assume its best to stay with the Talk Talk DNS?
Any advice would be most welcome as this page loading issue is doing my head in.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRCRYkpg/dns.jpg)
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My ISP/CP is also TalkTalk but I have not used their DNS servers for many years. I am currently using CloudFlare (1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1).
The TalkTalk DNS servers that were offered to me (at the last service start) were 79.79.79.77 and 79.79.79.78. As far as I am aware, they have a number of servers.
(I thought Father Jack had decided to use CloudFlare . . .)
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I did but after switching to 79.79.79.79 the slow site seemed to work fine however after a few minutes the slow speeds returned, i am giving up and have switched back to cloudflare as its obviously not the DNS that is causing it, the site seems to load fine most of the time so i will put up with it when it decided to have a slow down its not worth spending any more time trying to sort it as all others work fine at the same time this one acts up.
Thanks to all for all your help.
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From what you have just explained, I have to agree that your problem is not related to the DNS server(s) currently in use.
Thanks to all for all your help.
You are welcome.
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Your first post Pic 2 shows NAT disabled.
Are you sure that's what you want?
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Your first post Pic 2 shows NAT disabled.
Are you sure that's what you want?
I am not sure if it should be disabled or enabled i haven't messed with it as far as i know, i am doing a bit of searching and have already found -
Re: Why can’t I find how to enable NAT on my ‘wifi hub’ router?
That is fine, to be precise, it is the Sagemcom FAST5364 WiFi hub.
When you ask how to enable NAT, do you mean where it says it is disabled in the Device Info display within its Network section?
(https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/50843i84BD9E5F41753FF5/image-size/large?v=v2&px=999)
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I cannot find any settings in the TT HUB where i could turn it on or off so i assume it comes set to off.
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I found this while searching its not from a Talk Talk forum just general discussion, as mine is off and the internet is working fine i guess that the way Talk Talk set them up.
If NAT is turned off, the device will work on pure-router mode which can transmit data only. Please DO NOT turn it off unless your ISP supports this mode, otherwise you will lose Internet connection.
Notice: The default status of NAT is Enabled, so without special demand, please don't select the Disable option
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Regarding the "TT hub", who is the manufacturer and what is the model?
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Regarding the "TT hub", who is the manufacturer and what is the model?
Sagemcom FAST5364 WiFi hub was mentioned further up
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Sagemcom FAST5364 WiFi hub was mentioned further up
Ah, thank you. :-[
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBDu-V-KqQI