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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: black33 on March 24, 2021, 11:54:56 PM
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Live in a small cul-de-sac where only adsl2 is available at present with 8mbps top download speed.
Have been enquiring about fibre for a while now but Openreach say nope no plans for your area sorry.
Today notices appeared saying Openreach will be putting up poles.
Hopefully this will mean fibre at last but I have been told fibre cannot come from a pole to a property is this right?
Could the pole be used to carry the fibre from pole to pole and then underground used to the premises. We don't have any ducting as far as I am aware the current connection to my home is via a cable which i have managed to dig up a few times when gardening in the past.
I know residents would prefer the cable to be hidden underground but am guessing the cheapest, quickest and easy way is over head cable from pole?
Any thoughts?
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Almost certain to be fibre
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Fibre most certainly can come from a pole, there are multiple recent discussions from people who are in the process of having it fitting via poles or HAD it fitted already.
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And welcome to the forum! ;D
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Hopefully this will mean fibre at last but I have been told fibre cannot come from a pole to a property is this right?
Whoever told you that was very mistaken, they've been hanging fibre from poles for year's. Loads of our area has just had fibre put on poles, our estate is all underground, hopefully we'll get fibre but not poles.
Here's an example from 2018 http://andysworld.org.uk/tag/fttp/
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And welcome to the forum! ;D
Thank you :)
And a big thanks to the fellas who replied to my question, looking forward to fibre in a few months time then, fingers crossed.
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Sorry to open this topic again.
So it's unanimous it will be a fibre connection, what kind of speeds will this make available, super fast or just your average 50-60mbps?
Thanks.
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So it's unanimous it will be a fibre connection, what kind of speeds will this make available, super fast or just your average 50-60mbps?
It will be whatever speed service you decide to purchase from your ISP/CP. (There will be no distance related speed drop nor any other problems as can be observed with metallic pathway defects.)
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It will be whatever speed service you decide to purchase from your ISP/CP. (There will be no distance related speed drop nor any other problems as can be observed with metallic pathway defects.)
Ah right thank you for that. Was unsure what speeds would be possible with overhead cable as in if it was limited, so in effect if a 1gb service is available this cabling can deliver it, great news, cheers. :)
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Yes, the fibre optic cable can deliver speeds far more that's what's currently available to order.
Fastest package available on FTTP currently is 1000/220 Mbps, not all providers offer this though.
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Yes, the fibre optic cable can deliver speeds far more that's what's currently available to order.
Fastest package available on FTTP currently is 1000/220 Mbps, not all providers offer this though.
And no doubt the faster you want the more it costs?
I will be happy for anything around 40-50mbps if the cost is reasonable. I don't need lightning speed or anything so won't be paying top whack for a top service.
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@black33 You did ask what speeds would be available so now that you know you pays your money and takes your choice, or words to that effect. ;D
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@black33 You did ask what speeds would be available so now that you know you pays your money and takes your choice, or words to that effect. ;D
Yup correct, I will start saving now ;)
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And no doubt the faster you want the more it costs?
I will be happy for anything around 40-50mbps if the cost is reasonable. I don't need lightning speed or anything so won't be paying top whack for a top service.
An example of Zen current prices:
(https://csdprojects.co.uk/forums/ZenFTTP.png)
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mmm thanks for the prices, was looking at £20 to £25 per month tops so Zen is a no go for me.
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mmm thanks for the prices, was looking at £20 to £25 per month tops so Zen is a no go for me.
I can't remember if they do the cheaper packages (annoyingly I had to use a different post code to get that page as no FTTP here yet), I know many ISPs go as low as 40Mbit.
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There are some options around that price, but you'll need to check your selected ISP can/will supply FTTP, not all can at the moment.
You may have to take advantage of cash back offers to get that price as well.
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An example of Zen current prices:
Ohh only £7 for an extra 400mbps... this is how they get you :) and I like how they seem to imply you need at least 300mbps for 4K streaming... ;D
I'll just sit here chugging along on my 24mbps whilst I refresh the FTTP checker frantically ;-)
C
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I like Gigaclear's pricing, only £5 for 70Mbps more, or £10 for 270Mbps more
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There are some options around that price, but you'll need to check your selected ISP can/will supply FTTP, not all can at the moment.
You may have to take advantage of cash back offers to get that price as well.
Yes I will shop around when the time comes, thanks for your advice.
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I realise we are talking Openreach approved isps here but we also have a local co-operative set-up who tell me they can deliver speeds upto 1gig for £30 per month so Openreach may be swerved if this becomes available.
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Be a bit wary with ‘local operations’ - ask the question how does maintenance happen? Do they have professional staff such as Openreach does ready to fix problems 7 days a week within x hours etc. I have heard nth hand tales of horror stories about such.
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None quite so bad a Digital Region I expect, where we got cut-off when the network closed and I was chasing up ANY broadband connection as the order process got tied up in Openreach red-tape.
At least these new networks are entirely independent of Openreach. (at least to the home anyway)
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Yeah have now given the co-operative the word we are not interested. They had 5 months to decide if they wanted to bring us fibre but never got back to us.
And as you gentlemen have kindly pointed out if in future you want to change provider you are stuck and they could always just keep on upping the monthly charges.
So sticking with the OR set up which is going to start soon I believe.
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If its physically a completely different network to Openreach, you're only "stuck" to a minimum contract period, it should have zero impact on your ability to get Openreach service in the future.
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If its physically a completely different network to Openreach, you're only "stuck" to a minimum contract period, it should have zero impact on your ability to get Openreach service in the future.
Yes the community fibre set up is independent of Openreach. Anyway I am pleased Openreach are now undertaking the task of bringing us residents fibre.
Thanks for all your help, stay safe.
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We now have poles in the ground and labels on them saying fibre ;)
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BT often tend to be the most competitive of the Openreach FTTP ISP at the moment
Yes the community fibre set up is independent of Openreach
I always find Community Fibre to be an overused and slightly confusing term - apart from BT's Community Fibre programme, there is also https://communityfibre.co.uk/ which are very well funded and run their own fibre network in London..
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Well its all been installed now just need to find a good deal for fttp on the network.
I've got the OH line to my property and IR fitted me the ONT inside as well, a little white box on the wall.
OR guys told me all I need is a fibre router and to just plug it in and away I go. No further visit from OR needed.
I've noticed some ISPs don't give you a router you have to supply it yourself.
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They fitted an ONT BEFORE you ordered the service from an ISP? Never heard of that happening before.
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I realise we are talking Openreach approved isps here but we also have a local co-operative set-up who tell me they can deliver speeds upto 1gig for £30 per month so Openreach may be swerved if this becomes available.
What part of the country are you ?.
What's the name of the 'Alternet' ? who can supply for £30 ?, It's not B4RN is it ?.
Re ..'I've got the OH line to my property and IR fitted me the ONT inside as well' Open Reach do not install until the ISP has placed an order with them to to do so :hmm:
Who is IR ?
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They fitted an ONT BEFORE you ordered the service from an ISP? Never heard of that happening before.
Yes, they did it because I was the lead in the request to enable my area with FTTP.
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Plumped for the BT Home Essentials package 80/20 for £20 per month.
Noticed the difference in speed immediately, well pleased.
With laptop joined to home hub 2 with rj45 cable I get 74mb wirelessly it drops to 63mb.
Upload speed is rock steady at 20mb.
Can't grumble for the price.