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Broadband Related => Broadband Hardware => Topic started by: tubaman on November 21, 2020, 12:14:56 PM
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I occasionally check for new firmware at ZyXel's site - https://www.zyxel.com/uk/en/support/download_library.shtml - but there is now no sign of any firmware, old or new, for the VMG series routers. Old firmware is still on their FTP site - ftp://ftp.zyxel.com/ - but you need to know that's there to find it.
Have they given up on the VMG series now?
:(
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The Zyxel EMEA site lists the VMG3927-T50K, VM3625-T50B and the VMG1312-T20B, although the DX3300-T0 looks interesting:
https://service-provider.zyxel.com/emea/en/products/dsl-cpes/vdsl/modemresidential-gateways
Are Zyxel seriously going T Series, as I see the VMG8825-T50K is on the FTP site but Zyxel are wiping their hands of supporting isp versions:
https://support.zyxel.eu/hc/en-us/articles/360014493120-VMG8825-T50K-NL01V1F-T-Mobile-NL-
:lol:
hopefully should be cheap on ebay
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Zyxel are wiping their hands of supporting isp versions:
They have never supported ISP only provided modems.
They only provide firmware for devices they sell in a retail environment.
Many of the VMG series routers were provided to both ISP's and direct to consumers so could easily be unlocked.
They have always had a few modems and routers that are exclusively for ISP's and you can't find generic firmware for these.
The VMG8825-T50K-NL01V1F / T-Mobile NL looks to be 1 of those.
Nothing new about that approach.
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The Zyxel EMEA site lists the VMG3927-T50K, VM3625-T50B and the VMG1312-T20B, although the DX3300-T0 looks interesting:
https://service-provider.zyxel.com/emea/en/products/dsl-cpes/vdsl/modemresidential-gateways
Are Zyxel seriously going T Series, as I see the VMG8825-T50K is on the FTP site but Zyxel are wiping their hands of supporting isp versions:
https://support.zyxel.eu/hc/en-us/articles/360014493120-VMG8825-T50K-NL01V1F-T-Mobile-NL-
:lol:
hopefully should be cheap on ebay
I saw those, but there's no firmware listed for them on the main site.
I'm not sure what's going on.
:)
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Perhaps it’s just a screw-up? Website maintenance gone wrong ? I’m not particularly convinced by my own suggestion.
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It's a bit odd that they have removed a large amount of devices from their download library links.
The 8924 and 1312 specs/support pages have been gone a while but you could still search for the device and find firmware links.
Still about a dozen firmware versions for the 8924 on their ftp site.
You need to know the link as there's no way to find it through Zyxel's website.
ftp://ftp.zyxel.co.uk/
They even have a non ISP firmware for the apparently ISP only VMG8825-T50K discussed above.
ftp://ftp.zyxel.co.uk/VMG8825-T50K/firmware/
Which is more than they provide for some other models issued to ISP's in parts of South America and Egypt.
With a few of the VMG series models used by some members here on kitz, Zyxel would often help providing the Supervisor password without having to decrypt it yourself.
However they would ask for the router serial number and if you provided the serial number of an ISP supplied device support would end at that point, referring you back to your ISP.
If you provided a retail model serial number they would provide the Supervisor password and even offered to register the devices warranty for you.
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Hi, I've just got hold of a new VMG1312-B10A off ebay, but struggling to find any offical firmware for this as its firmware v1.00(AAJZ.3), even the ftp site is not responding, can anyone else access the site. Thanks
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Hi, I've just got hold of a new VMG1312-B10A off ebay, but struggling to find any official firmware for this as its firmware v1.00(AAJZ.3), even the ftp site is not responding, can anyone else access the site. Thanks
Yep. No problems accessing it here.
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@LittleBitGrumpy:
Welcome to the site.
Based on the ftp link supplied by "tubaman", this is specifically the 1312-B10A link:
ftp://ftp.zyxel.com/VMG1312-B10A/firmware/
(being ftp link may query application but should run in your browser, I use FF)
As you can see from my signature I'am still running a 1312-B10A as modem on my FTTC line, has always been the best performer for me.
Running the latest available FW, V.1.00(AAJZ.17)C0, 2/1/19.
If you don't currently have GUI supervisor access there is lots of very good information available on the "Modem Router Unlocking" forum section which will guide you through the process of obtaining the supervisor password.
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Thanks, was getting blank page even with this link using chrome, but can access the FTP site using Firefox browser, cheers
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Glad you got the desired result in the end.
Yes, browsers can be funny, I like Firefox, my default browser but keep Pale Moon as a reserve, very similar interface, as some of my on line banking sites and RAC site won't work properly with FF.
The 1312-B10A although getting very old now is still a very well respected modem and performs very well on most FTTC VDSL-2 lines, I have always returned to mine for modem service.
Of course there are other opinions and every line is unique!
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@LittleBitGrumpy - welcome to the forum!
There is also the superb johnson firmware, ie built by our very own user johnson, which has very helpful enhancements, including PPP MTU = 1508 bytes. This lives at https://github.com/johnson442/custom-zyxel-firmware/releases
You can build that yourself if you prefer. It was built from sources that came straight from ZyXEL.
I strongly recommend the VMG1312-B10A, when used as a modem anyway. In fact I have four of them in use live right now, set up in modem-only mode, with a separate firewall/router. Other ZyXEL models have better wireless capabilities, but then you can always use one or more separate WAPs instead, as I do. I have two WAPs in use now and the VMG1312-B10As have their wireless turned off.
Our moderator Burakkucat has one in use as a router iirc, not a mere modem, and it was on his recommendation that I chose the device in the first place.
See also : - BCM63168 Modems that Support Baby Jumbo Frames (Bridge Mode) (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21273.0.html) and
- ZyXEL Modems - eg VMG1312-B10A - Custom Firmware MTU 1508 Maintenance (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,21545.msg413178.html#msg413178)
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Just got hold of a VMG1312-T20B, this is a nice device
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Just got hold of a VMG1312-T20B, this is a nice device
Isn't that Mediatek based as it is T series rather than B series?
:no:
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Isn't that Mediatek based as it is T series rather than B series?
:no:
Indeed, and still remember a very negative experience with a VMG3625-T20A :-X
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Indeed, and still remember a very negative experience with a VMG3625-T20A :-X
Ditto, I bought one very cheaply on eBay a couple of years ago and was shocked when I found out it was Mediatek based. Its performance on my line was awful too. I ended up recycling it as I couldn't with all conscience sell it to anyone else. :no:
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Isn't that Mediatek based as it is T series rather than B series?
:no:
0x451E VMG1312-T20A,VMG3312-T20A EN75XX seriesV5.30 MTK SDK 7.3.207.4 for EN75xx series, include EN7512, EN7521
https://osdn.net/projects/zyxel-vmg3312/releases/74521
Looks like it is, seems there's firmware and sources available to build it yourself.
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Its nice though that Zyxel seem to tell you the chipset in the model number like that. Is it entirely consistent across their product line?
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Its nice though that Zyxel seem to tell you the chipset in the model number like that. Is it entirely consistent across their product line?
As far as I can tell
Ditto, I bought one very cheaply on eBay a couple of years ago and was shocked when I found out it was Mediatek based. Its performance on my line was awful too. I ended up recycling it as I couldn't with all conscience sell it to anyone else. :no:
Andrews & Arnold offer the VMG1312-T20B as their default router: https://support.aa.net.uk/Router_-_VMG1312-T20B I can't imagine it being that bad as it would have been pulled within 6 months.
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Andrews & Arnold offer the VMG1312-T20B as their default router: https://support.aa.net.uk/Router_-_VMG1312-T20B I can't imagine it being that bad as it would have been pulled within 6 months.
Agree, but on my longish (circa 800m) line Mediatek modem chipsets, and I've tried more than one, don't play nicely at all. The errors go through the roof and DLM action would be inevitable.
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800m ? My line is ~7300m one ?
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800m ? My line is ~7300m one ?
Yes, compared to your lines mine is short, but for VDSL 800m is long enough on my line to drop the sync to 42/7, and that is with G.INP and 3dB.
:)
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Is that a lot of crosstalk then?
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Is that a lot of crosstalk then?
I think I've lost a bit of speed to crosstalk, but I don't think much as I was one of the early ones onto the cabinet when it went live and its never been a lot faster than this. Pre G.INP I was getting mid 30s DS sync, with the best I've ever seen with G.INP and 3dB being about 48Mbps. I think most of the loss is purely down to the line length.
:)
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Looking good:
Model Name
VMG1312-T20B
Firmware Version
V5.30(ABSB.2)C0
System Uptime
0 days 0 hours 56 minutes 6 seconds
VDSL WAN
Rx:39995 Tx:9994 (Kbps)
Now off to berate Zyxel Support on their refusal to give me the latest firmware on a generic purchased router
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xDSLFwVersion: FwVer:5.10.6.0_B_A60901 HwVer:T14.F7_0.0
Line State: Up
Modulation: ITU G.993.2(VDSL2)
Annex Mode: ANNEX_B
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TPSTC type: 64/65B PTM TC
near-end interleaved channel bit rate: 39995 kbps
near-end fast channel bit rate: 0 kbps
far-end interleaved channel bit rate: 0 kbps
far-end fast channel bit rate: 9994 kbps
near-end FEC error fast: 0
near-end FEC error interleaved: 352088
near-end CRC error fast: 0
near-end CRC error interleaved: 0
near-end HEC error fast: 0
near-end HEC error interleaved: 0
far-end FEC error fast: 0
far-end FEC error interleaved: 0
far-end CRC error fast: 0
far-end CRC error interleaved: 0
far-end HEC error fast: 0
far-end HEC error interleaved: 0
DSL uptime :56 min, 14 secs
DSL activetime :0 min, 20 secs
Downstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin downstream: 9.0 dB
output power upstream: 5.4 dbm
attenuation downstream: 13.3 dB
Upstream:
relative capacity occupation: 100%
noise margin upstream: 10.2 dB
output power downstream: 5.4 dbm
attenuation upstream: 0.1 dB
Bit table:
carrier load: number of bits per tone
tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 22 23 44 55 66 77 77 88 88 89 99
tone 32- 63: 0d dd dd dd cc dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd de
tone 64- 95: ed ed ed dd ee de dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd ed
tone 96-127: dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dd dc dd dd dd dd dd dd
tone 128-159: dd dd cd cd dd dd dd cd cc cc cc dc cc cc cc cc
tone 160-191: cb cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc bc cc bb
tone 192-223: bb bb bb ba aa 97 54 79 aa a9 aa ba bb bb bb bb
tone 224-255: bb bb bb bb aa ba ab aa aa aa aa aa 99 97 44 79