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Computers & Hardware => Android & other hand held devices => Topic started by: noddy on October 10, 2020, 08:34:38 AM

Title: Car USB charger
Post by: noddy on October 10, 2020, 08:34:38 AM
Hi  , I use an old Nexus 7 as a sat nav ( it's about all it's good for ;) ) and it works well , I know GPS uses a lot of power but would have thought constant charging while in use would keep it going but it appears not :( . I've replaced the battery but need a USB charger than can keep up with it , I'm using a charge only cable any ideas on charger or cables cheers .
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: roseway on October 10, 2020, 10:48:48 AM
I'm certainly no expert, but my guess is that the charging interface in the phone may be the limitation, not the charger. I use a modern phone with a UPS-C interface, and car charging has no problem keeping up with the satnav app (I use Sygic).
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: parkdale on October 10, 2020, 10:54:54 AM
Hi Noddy, you might want to try this one ... a little bit more expensive, but will(should) work with your N7

https://www.anker.com/uk/products/variant/powerdrive--1-port/A2309011

I bought the power port+ (usb c-c) for the other half's phone which uses IQ charging, 40mins for 100% from empty.

Or you could use a charge bank https://www.anker.com/uk/products/50/73/high-capacity-portable-chargers

Robin

Made too bold a statement!  Anker have 30 day return as well.
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: tickmike on October 10, 2020, 11:42:29 AM
Are you talking about charging you phone while in your car ?. you need to change your Title .

Our second car does not have built in Sat-Nav so I have a Tom-Tom.
The cars USB socket is Not powerful enough to charge it so I have a USB charger that plugs into the 12 volt socket .
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: Ronski on October 10, 2020, 11:45:43 AM
As others have suggested it could be a lack power from the socket or faulty/low quality cable limiting the charge rate.
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: noddy on October 10, 2020, 12:43:02 PM
I'm certainly no expert, but my guess is that the charging interface in the phone may be the limitation, not the charger. I use a modern phone with a UPS-C interface, and car charging has no problem keeping up with the satnav app (I use Sygic).
Yes I'm using Sygic on the tablet , may be it's the micro usb connection that can't receive enough power ?
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: noddy on October 10, 2020, 12:46:11 PM
Are you talking about charging you phone while in your car ?. you need to change your Title .

Our second car does not have built in Sat-Nav so I have a Tom-Tom.
The cars USB socket is Not powerful enough to charge it so I have a USB charger that plugs into the 12 volt socket .
Changed it ;) , I'm using a plugin USB charger that's supposed to be 3.1 amps perhaps I need a better quality one
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: burakkucat on October 10, 2020, 05:47:00 PM
Changed it ;)

And with a couple of "paw-pushes" on the relevant buttons the changed subject line is propagated to all of the replies. 
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: noddy on October 10, 2020, 08:12:21 PM
And with a couple of "paw-pushes" on the relevant buttons the changed subject line is propagated to all of the replies.
should so much power be in the paws of one cat ?
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: roseway on October 10, 2020, 10:17:03 PM
should so much power be in the paws of one cat ?

It's OK, he's supervised by a penguin.
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: noddy on October 11, 2020, 10:02:11 AM
It's OK, he's supervised by a penguin.
Phew that's a relief thought of a cat given free rein was disturbing  :lol: 
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: tubaman on October 11, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
This may be of interest - https://sites.google.com/a/mst.edu/robert_ruark/projects/google-nexus-7-charging
Perhaps the cable is the issue if it's along one?
 :)
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: noddy on October 11, 2020, 03:20:34 PM
This may be of interest - https://sites.google.com/a/mst.edu/robert_ruark/projects/google-nexus-7-charging
Perhaps the cable is the issue if it's along one?
 :)
cheers I'll do some experimenting :)
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: Ronski on October 11, 2020, 07:12:12 PM
As I said before it doesn't even need to be along cable, just poor quality or damaged. I had a tablet that showed as charging, but never did (previously it charged perfectly on that cable), it turned out to be a faulty cable.
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on October 11, 2020, 09:25:03 PM
I went through a TON of brand-new cables before finding one to charge my tablet at full current, far too many just don't deliver.

I only buy Anker brand now.
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: sevenlayermuddle on October 11, 2020, 11:50:29 PM
I’ve had lots of bad experiences with car charger/cable combinations.

Worse of all was one which simply stopped working after a few weeks.  Turned out it had also blown the car’s circuit fuse, rated at 10A.  That’s about the same current that passes through a UK kettle to brew your tea so, unsurprisingly, the insides of the charger plug showed signs of a significant meltdown with risk of outright flames.   :o

Cause was obvious.  All that physically separated incoming 12V from GND was a flimsy plastic rib which had disintegrated allowing a direct short.   That one was clearly an example of dangerous tat, but sold by Amazon, under the ‘Amazon Basics’ branding. :'(
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: noddy on October 12, 2020, 04:39:07 PM
I went through a TON of brand-new cables before finding one to charge my tablet at full current, far too many just don't deliver.

I only buy Anker brand now.
Yes I've been looking at their charges as well as their cables
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: noddy on October 12, 2020, 04:40:48 PM
I’ve had lots of bad experiences with car charger/cable combinations.

Worse of all was one which simply stopped working after a few weeks.  Turned out it had also blown the car’s circuit fuse, rated at 10A.  That’s about the same current that passes through a UK kettle to brew your tea so, unsurprisingly, the insides of the charger plug showed signs of a significant meltdown with risk of outright flames.   :o

Cause was obvious.  All that physically separated incoming 12V from GND was a flimsy plastic rib which had disintegrated allowing a direct short.   That one was clearly an example of dangerous tat, but sold by Amazon, under the ‘Amazon Basics’ branding. :'(
Good heads up I'll not put them on my Christmas list ;)
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on October 12, 2020, 10:37:34 PM
Cause was obvious.  All that physically separated incoming 12V from GND was a flimsy plastic rib which had disintegrated allowing a direct short.   That one was clearly an example of dangerous tat, but sold by Amazon, under the ‘Amazon Basics’ branding. :'(

The irony is that I watch BigClive on Youtube and it actually seems a fair bit of Poundland stuff is better quality than Amazon Basics.  I might have to suggest he checks out some Amazon Basics stuff in comparison.
Title: Re: Car USB charger
Post by: sevenlayermuddle on October 12, 2020, 11:38:27 PM
My bad experience with the AmazonBasics charger was a few years ago.   After opening it up it was obvious that repeated installation & removal in the socket would lead to fatigue in a rib in the plastic moulding, whereupon the contact spring would be unconstrained and would expand into adjacent conductors and a short circuit would occur.   We had a second identical charger for other half’s car and, on disassembly, the same plastic rib was fractured and hanging on by a thread.

The current AmazonBasics chargers look completely different, different moulding,  so I doubt whether they have the same identical fault.

But equally, I have no confidence at all that Amazon perform any kind of detailed analysis on any of the products they sell under their own brand.   Imo They will simply apply the branding to whatever cheap tat earns them the biggest margin.  Since that time, I try to avoid.