Kitz Forum
Broadband Related => Broadband Technology => Topic started by: Alex Atkin UK on July 06, 2020, 01:56:43 AM
-
There's something odd going on with codelook, my cabinet is showing "FTTC Available from 20th December 2019, some with 18/2M product" which is clearly wrong. That may however be the date the Huawei extension went live.
-
I thought I'd look up the CodeLook site, haven't been on there for a while.
I noticed something odd in my area. I'll attach the image.
Until I just looked now all the cabinets, except a BDUK cabinet, was ECI.
Now when I look at it, there is a term Phase Incremental Build, and now lists the cabinet as Huawei. This as been done in 5 cabinets.
Does this mean they are swapping out ECI cabinets for Huawei ones?
-
Lots of work in progress? Also I have noticed the 300Mb speed! from the cab?
-
As ADSL is being phased out... 18/2 is the replacement? :fingers:
-
300 MB probably means the checker thinks Virgin Media is present
18/2 was a trial that OR ran a few years ago. See https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/05/openreach-bt-stops-taking-new-customers-18mbps-fttc-trial.html
-
My own cabinet also shows Phase Incremental Build, it was an ECI, and then a Huawei twin was installed, not been past it in the last few weeks but last time I did it was still an ECI cab.
-
I'm wondering if they are Huawei add on pods, if that is possible on an ECI cabinet?
I found an older version of me copying the chart and it looks like more people are connected to the cabinets than there is now, and most of the ones showing the Phase Incremental Build might have exceeded the number of connections available on the ECI cabinet.
When I compare the 2 images there is a lot more people connecting to the cabinets these days.
-
Looked up my area and there is also quite a lot of "Phase Incremental Build Huawei ".
Previously all cabs (bar a couple of BDUK) were ECI's
I refer to my post from Jan this year here (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24319.msg409280.html#msg409280) & here (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24319.msg409925.html#msg409925) when I noticed Openreach had been very busy installing what were previously g.fast pods on to the sides of several PCPs.
My cab is the only one though that says
FTTC Available from 1st February 2020 Phase VDSL Sidepod Huawei
-
I'm wondering if they are Huawei add on pods, if that is possible on an ECI cabinet?
The pods are added to the side of the PCP - not the ECI cab - and look like the g.fast pods.
This is mine - I'm on an ECI dslam, but according to the records its a Huawei Phase VDSL Sidepod
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=24319.0;attach=28094;image)
-
The pods are added to the side of the PCP - not the ECI cab - and look like the g.fast pods.
This is mine - I'm on an ECI dslam, but according to the records its a Huawei Phase VDSL Sidepod
(https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=24319.0;attach=28094;image)
Where did you find out information about the sidepod?
-
See post above - reply #7
-
Every cabinet in my village now has a ECI and a Huawei cabinet demand is high were I live as adsl is 2mb.
My cabinet according to codelookup passes 378 premises and has a large Huawei and a ECI cab, if it was just extra capacity why install a large Huawei?
Seems to follow a pattern as the smaller areas have a small Huawei and the larger a big Huawei they all have enough capacity to support all lines on just the Huawei.
-
There may or may not be some connection with the following topics --
"ECI To Huawei (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24917.0.html)" in which both j0hn and a certain kuroneko were interested to see a "top hat" fitted to a pre-existing cabinet, which contains an ECI Hi-FOCuS M41 DSLAM (MSAN). The second image in Reply #8 (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24917.msg418927.html#msg418927).
"What has happened to this cabinet (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24265.0.html)", in particular the latter posts by CarlT and Black Sheep making reference to Subtended Head Ends (SHE).
"Presentation given to NetMcr, 9th January (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24230)" by CarlT.
Try joining the dots . . . one picture that might be seen is the concept of pushing a fibre head-end out further from an exchange building, thus giving more scope to encompass end-users with a GPON based FTTP service.
-
FTTP is being installed via subtended side pods, just FYI. I know of both Nokia and Huawei pods having been installed with OLTs in them.
The side pods can, I think, handle both VDSL and FTTP boards simultaneously so perfectly possible to have any mix and match, within the 2 board limit of the chassis, of VDSL, G.fast (unlikely now) and FTTP.
-
My own cabinet also shows Phase Incremental Build, it was an ECI, and then a Huawei twin was installed, not been past it in the last few weeks but last time I did it was still an ECI cab.
Had a look at my cabinets Saturday, no change, just the same two FTTC cabinets and PCP
-
FTTP is being installed via subtended side pods, just FYI. I know of both Nokia and Huawei pods having been installed with OLTs in them.
The side pods can, I think, handle both VDSL and FTTP boards simultaneously so perfectly possible to have any mix and match, within the 2 board limit of the chassis, of VDSL, G.fast (unlikely now) and FTTP.
I guess that explains why my PCP has a side pod making zero noise then, with the FTTP being delayed due to exchange power issues.
-
Sounds more like your side pod is a passive one for providing more cross-connect capacity to be honest though the vents would tell the story.
Even if there were power issues in the exchange the power for a powered pod would have already been delivered as part of the work pack - it's just a cable between FTTC cabinet and PCP.
Power issues in exchange may indicate they are installing Nokia kit rather than using Huawei kit with spare service board space to do double duty. That or new Huawei kit as there's none, or at least none with capacity for service boards.
-
It was this:
(https://csdprojects.co.uk/forums/Intake%20Cabinet%2012.jpg)
I think the whole exchange might be ECI which would perhaps explain needing so much work?
-
I think the whole exchange might be ECI which would perhaps explain needing so much work?
It has some Huawei cabinets so must have a Huawei OLT.
Codelook says that's a VDSL Sidepod.
So if codelook is to believed it will probably contain a Huawei MA5818 DSLAM (it's actually capable of VDSL and G.Fast).
-
It has some Huawei cabinets so must have a Huawei OLT.
Codelook says that's a VDSL Sidepod.
So if codelook is to believed it will probably contain a Huawei MA5818 DSLAM (it's actually capable of VDSL and G.Fast).
Strange it doesn't mention that at the cabinet level, only when looking at the full list for the exchange.
Sucks they aren't offering G.Fast from it, I would have upgraded. Even more puzzling that every time I have checked there is no noise coming from the pod at all.
-
. . . Even more puzzling that every time I have checked there is no noise coming from the pod at all.
Not really. More recent kit does not require active cooling (with spinning fans) and so can be utterly silent to a passer-by.
-
Not really. More recent kit does not require active cooling (with spinning fans) and so can be utterly silent to a passer-by.
I guess I'd have to listen closer, I'd be even more stunned if it had zero coil whine at all. ALL modern devices usually emit some noise my tinnitus ears doesn't like to ignore.