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Broadband Related => FTTP Rollout => Topic started by: stevebrass on May 14, 2020, 02:08:20 PM
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Noticed that OR were lifting chamber covers near where I live so had a chat. They are roping through the ducts ready for FTTP.
Good news then - we are cabled up for VM but FTTP competition will be very useful.
We are on the list for FTTP but I imagined it wouldn’t happen in a rush. Of course roping through is not the same as fibre installation but it’s progress. Given my BT cabinet is 1.5 km away and an ECI dslam FTTP would be a real upgrade.
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Of course roping through is not the same as fibre installation but it’s progress.
Yes, indeed. Every process has a starting point . . . but it's the ending point (of the installation process) that would be more significant.
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My parents were near you, near Hollington Staffs, few miles from Uttoxeter. (As opposed to the other Hollington in Derbyshire) Janet’s old mum is in Eccleshall so just next door to you.
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Contractors have been working last couple of days installing fibre from chamber to chamber.
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They laid FTTP within a month here from first vans appearing.
Super quick turn around and already installed.
Very happy to get away from VM, they were very inconsistent and mostly deny any issue.
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More contractors around today. More fibre going in. ;D
BT Openreach and KN Circet. Former confirmed that our road is on the list.
VM contract renews next May so could have an interesting haggle with them and BT.
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Just looked on our ORION tool, this indicates (using colours) what status PONS are at. Stone looks to be well on its way to being nearly completed regarding surveys, with most of the PON's now having a build-pack created meaning civils, cabling & splicing will be in progress.
Great news for Stone residents. :)
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Well. FTTP is being offered and up and active on most houses near me - but not offered to me - yet. We are a small road just off the main estate ,and our BT connection predates the new connections made for the rest of the estate.
But I didn't think the existing copper/fttc arrangements would impact FTTP?
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It depends on which FTTP programme the 'main estate' falls under ?? If it's 'Retro New Sites' (ie: built within the last 30yrs) then this will be because the estate is ducted. If your 'small road' is fed overhead or by buried cable (DiG), then it probably won't have been captured on the Ghost Plan blueprint ??
It's a hard call to make based off the info we have, I'm afraid.
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The OR team have been in our road - they were checking where a particular chamber was (its hidden under a neighbour's planting) and feeding rope through.They said that FTTP would be available. Ah well - not to worry.
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Great news! I know you have all been concerned about my situation. Today contractors were installing fibre and a CBT - which I think means connectorised block terminal - into the chamber just around the corner. From there I imagine they run the final bit of cable when the customer makes an order.
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Today contractors were installing fibre and a CBT - which I think means connectorised block terminal - into the chamber just around the corner.
Yes, that is the correct interpretation.
From there I imagine they run the final bit of cable when the customer makes an order.
Yes. Assuming that the chamber is designated as the customer's DP.
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Snapped. BT chamber with presumably fibre optic cables and a manifold connector?
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Yes, fibre optic tubes (or cables) but not a manifold. I'm not sure . . . it might be a track joint or even an aggregation node.
Perhaps j0hn has an opinion?
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Looks like the shape and colour of an Aggregation Node, as seen in the attached pic.
Although I'm unsure if the attached image is 100% definitive.
Well, I'm pretty sure it's not definitive and that probably isn't an Aggregation Node :-\
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Well, I'm pretty sure it's not definitive and that probably isn't an Aggregation Node :-\
Thanks. ;)
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Steve is there any chance of Eccleshall getting FTTP in the near future?
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That is definitely an AGG.
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Steve is there any chance of Eccleshall getting FTTP in the near future?
I was in Eccleshall a couple of weeks ago and BT were I think installing fibre at the Sancerre Grange development.
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That is definitely an AGG.
Thank you. :) (I won't ask for a translation of the runic inscription, hand-written in white and seen clearly in the second image.)
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Thank you. :) (I won't ask for a translation of the runic inscription, hand-written in white and seen clearly in the second image.)
Ha ha - ;D ;D
It is indeed those 'runes' that tell us what the item is - every joint (Agg - IJ - Track joint - cable chamber joint) has its own unique T-Code. :)
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More progress. Seems like my fibre optic will be coming via poles.
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That is certainly optical fibre based infrastructure . . . but the detail is not clear enough to see the specifics. However, it is good news.
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You will have two new pieces of furniture attached to that pole .... an IJ (that feeds two other CBT's) and your own 8-port CBT.
:)
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More progress. Seems like my fibre optic will be coming via poles.
The lower object on the pole is a 'Strain relief' block as some of the fibre cables are 'Greased' inside and over time work out of the outer plastic casing.
Around our village fibre hung on the poles like that for well over a year and only some local farms/houses are only just getting connected up, hope your goes a bit quicker.
Our village fibre 'PON's' got lit up about four weeks ago and we can order if we want (Due to high covid in this area it's too risky to have someone in your house installing.) some of the outer lying parts are not commissioned yet..
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The lower object on the pole is a 'Strain relief' block as some of the fibre cables are 'Greased' inside and over time work out of the outer plastic casing.
These are called ELM's (External Locking Mechanism).
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These are called ELM's (External Locking Mechanism).
Thanks .
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Thanks for all the replies. I know that fibre has been run from the chamber in our road to a chamber on the main road.
It seem that the overhead fibre is the most practical way to get fibre to the main road chamber.
My VM contract is up in May, so with bit of luck I'll have BT FTTP available and so some haggling to be done.
If we go for BT, I will just need to get sign off from the boss for the ?ONT? . That could be the trickiest part of the exercise. Do BT do relationship counselling?
LOL etc
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Some more snaps of the overhead fibre shenanigans round my way.
The first snap is the pole where the fibre funds down I to the ground and has then been trenched to a chamber.
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And two more.
Not sure if the cables will be left of the pavement as shown :cool:
Lots of connections here. Do you remember the good old days when they used a quick twist and band-aid?
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And BT FTTP is now available to me! VN contract renews April so a good chance for a haggle between the two.
The BT headline price is more than VM's discounted price (£39.99 v £31) but we shall see. BT offer a better upload speed which is useful to me as I upload quite a few photographs .
Still - good news!
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Guess it depends on how good Virgin are in your area, they are far more prone to contention issues especially on upstream.
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Steve what speed options are eg BT offering?
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150/30
300/49
900/110
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BT have a number of different links with different prices.
I find the online offers much better than the sales staff are able to negotiate.
https://www.bt.com/broadband/deals
https://www.bt.com/campaign/full-fibre
https://www.bt.com/campaign/full-fibre-240
https://www.bt.com/broadband/bristol
https://www.bt.com/broadband/deals/affiliate-offer/ (https://www.bt.com/broadband/deals/affiliate-offer/?s_cid=con_cic_aff_affwin_vidAJM_broadband_78888&vendorid=AJM&utm_source=Affwin&utm_medium=Ref&utm_campaign=78888&awc=3041_1614694412_2621afe66ec03632c5d8909e917d964c&dclid=CIuDkrflke8CFcbN3godi78Bgwd=ef8d5b6ba0ad8d6042b4f8160faf5a30&xjsf=other_click__contextmenu%20%5B0%5D) (I've shortened this very long affiliate link).
For example following the Bristol link I got BT FTTP 160/30 for £29.99 a month.
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The house three doors down has ordered FTTP. Unfortunately, the OR chap found that the duct from the chamber to the house is blocked. And its only 5 meters away from the house! He is going to bring in the A Team to sort it. We expect helicopters any moment!
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Getting close to end of contract with VM.
Am I right in saying that the fibre cable can be mounted externally from the duct to a more convenient spot and then pushed into the property? There would be a couple of corners to go round.
Is it called EZ bend and does it come in different flavours if EZ bendability?
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Am I right in saying that the fibre cable can be mounted externally from the duct to a more convenient spot and then pushed into the property? There would be a couple of corners to go round.
Yes, that can be done.
Is it called EZ bend and does it come in different flavours if EZ bendability?
I'm aware of EZ Bend optical cable being used internally but am not sure about its external usage.
Looking at an example, I see the outer sheath is marked --
OFS EZ BEND G.657.B3 OPTICAL CABLE #C- MO4.8C-
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Just found this video.
It bends.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33txeycXe7c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33txeycXe7c)
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Some more snaps of the overhead fibre shenanigans round my way.
The first snap is the pole where the fibre funds down I to the ground and has then been trenched to a chamber.
Impressively clear photos of the fibre gear, I've been watching a similar install go up around my way, but nowhere near as close up as the shots you've managed to get :)
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Just found this video.
It bends.
Thank you for the video. I had not seen that particular demonstration.
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BT FTTP ordered with install April 26th. :fingers:
Had a haggle with VM who couldn't/wouldn't better BT offer price so over to BT.
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Ducting installed and roped ready for BT (external underground ducting to take fibre from BT duct along a wall to the "server room")
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Openreach (Quinn) here. Fibre pulled through successfully. Currently installing ONT. The tension mounts.
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All systems go. 150/30 8ms ping.
A fairly tidy job by Mr Quinn.
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All systems go. 150/30 8ms ping.
Excellent news. :)