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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: psychopomp1 on March 09, 2020, 09:12:26 AM

Title: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: psychopomp1 on March 09, 2020, 09:12:26 AM
For those of you with Openreach fibre already installed, TalkTalk are offering free 100/15 Mbps FTTP on a trial basis. However the caveat is that you must already be a TalkTalk broadband customer, either on ADSL2+ or FTTC. Otherwise they're expecting to officially release their Openreach based FTTP services to the public around May/June 2020, with speeds of up to 330/50 Mbps.

To request to go on their trial, call them on 0345 172 0074 which connects you directly to their FTTP trial team (UK based).

https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/futurefibretrial/bd-p/futurefibretrial

Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: broadstairs on March 09, 2020, 12:27:13 PM
Anyone know yet where you have to be in the country to get this?

Stuart
Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on March 09, 2020, 04:40:18 PM
Kinda mental they're launching 330/50 just as Gigabit becomes available for residential.
Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: psychopomp1 on March 09, 2020, 08:11:38 PM
Not mental at all considering around 80% of punters on Openreach FTTP only lines take out 80/20 or less, so those who take out the half gig & 1 Gig (where available) would be a very very small %. I’m sure the likes of TalkTalk will be selling 1 Gig on OR FTTP for £9.99/m one day, but that one day is 5+ years IMHO. At present 330/50 is more than enough for your average residential customer.
Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: kitz on March 09, 2020, 08:30:30 PM
Thanks for sharing.

Although, I know what they mean...  I had a bit of a giggle at this which to the average punter may seem like a contradiction.

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The cabling we use for Future Fibre is very delicate compared to standard broadband,  so we'll send a specially trained engineer to install it for you.

..//..

Most broadband packages available today use copper wiring to some extent. Copper is less reliable than fibre because it's more easily damaged,

Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: GigabitEthernet on March 09, 2020, 08:48:45 PM
What's the maximum potential speed of FTTP? Presumably it scales indefinitely, will an upgrade ever be needed again?
Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: niemand on March 09, 2020, 10:51:49 PM
At some point I imagine so but it's good for the foreseeable.

With current technology that fibre is good for 40 Gbit. Optical transceivers will continue to improve so 100 Gbit symmetrical is doable over a single fibre.

Loads of bandwidth left to be used in the fibre.
Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: niemand on March 09, 2020, 10:53:20 PM
Anyone know yet where you have to be in the country to get this?

Anywhere with Openreach FTTP. TalkTalk have unbundled all the headend exchanges I believe.
Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: broadstairs on March 10, 2020, 07:31:15 AM
Anywhere with Openreach FTTP. TalkTalk have unbundled all the headend exchanges I believe.

Yes but how do we find out actual locations?

Stuart
Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: j0hn on March 10, 2020, 02:05:47 PM
Yes but how do we find out actual locations?

Stuart

There are no specific locations.

Everywhere Talktalk sell FTTC they have unbundled the exchange.

You just need to have FTTP from OpenReach already installed.
Title: Re: TalkTalk Future Fibre Trial (Openreach FTTP)
Post by: Ronski on March 10, 2020, 05:18:31 PM
Yes but how do we find out actual locations?

Stuart

https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-map#12/51.3439/1.3903/geafttp/

Give it a few months or more and we may be able to order around, which will be nice, I seem to get the odd glitch on Virgin every now and again, so I shall certainly be looking at options when it's live.