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Internet => Web Hosting & Web Design => Topic started by: Weaver on January 30, 2020, 02:39:19 PM
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Is it my imagination or has 123-reg put up domain renewal prices a lot in recent years
I was just charged over £14 for renewal of a .uk domain. I’m thinking of moving to dynadot. Do I waste a load of money if I don’t wait until the end of the annual period, until it is almost over, before transferring to someone cheaper ?
I can never remember who to do these transfers; my apologies, pain drugs making me extremely groggy, perhaps someone could remind me.
[Moderator edited to fix auto-complete spelling mishap.]
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I just renewed my .uk domain for £8.99 ex vat with John.
As to transferring, I recall I “purchased” the transfer first with new registrar (at no charge) then changed the domain registration TAG with the current registrar. That was all there was to it.
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I just paid £12 inc vat for a .co.uk with 1&1 now ionos
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I just paid £12 inc vat for a .co.uk with 1&1 now ionos
Yup, its why I moved to them from 123-reg.
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I just renewed some .uk domains with dynadot for £5.99 which may include the VAT, can’t tell very easily.
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What are the going rates for .com and .uk renewals in your experience? And do I have to watch out for first-year only cheap deals?
I’m starting to wonder if it’s worth renewing for multiple years in order to avoid the hassle of moving if the price later goes up.
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I moved my domains to dynadot for this reason, dont like the trend of charging more for renewals vs initial registration. They also have free privacy, if thats something you value.
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Is there any difference between the privacy option offered by registrars and logging into your Nominet account and setting it yourself? My Whois shows no personal info.
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When the latest GDPR was in force, paying for domain privacy was defunct
Many thanks
John
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Thanks John that makes sense as previously the Whois quoted the registrant as “a private individual” or similar, whereas now there is no mention.
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I went with 1&1 because they have been around a long time, I was a bit nervous going for any company that was unproven.
I guess that's why 123-reg are creeping up the pricing, they are banking on their reputation being a draw.
Does anyone know what procedure you would need to reclaim a domain if the company you bought it from went bankrupt?
Is there any security if you have whois privacy on that ensures they actually registered it to you personally and not themselves?
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I can’t move some of my .com domains from 123-reg; I don’t have a password that is demanded to unlock the domain; they call this ‘feature’ "domain ownership protection" or something. There’s no password reset by email; you have to fill in a form and send it to them if you want the password reset and I have no idea what the answers to the questions on the form are either. So it all seems to be a nightmare which conveniently makes it really difficult to leave
It’s so excruciating that I will just stay with them because I can’t see a way out.
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@weaver - you have access into your 123 account, so can easily do this
It is called unlock (all tld.com etc...) are locked by default and you click unlock, which then displays a key
You have to unlock them to transfer
Remember domain will auto lock after 5 days....
Alternatively contact your new provider for instructions on how to do this
Also remember you will be charged by new provider for transfer
The way we do this for our clients, is we have to charge a transfer fee, but we renew domain for 1 year, as transfer fee is equal to renewal fee
Most providers do this...
Lastly, anyone using our services, if we stop, our clients still have access to their domains as we open an account for them directly so it’s in their name not ours.
Many thanks
John
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I was looking for an unlock thing, as I remember it from before - but all I found was this ‘protection’ thing.
I have found the unlock thing - I think. Something is very faint ‘greyed out’ - and it shows
"While Domain Ownership Protection is active, you are unable to change your domain's IPS tag or start a domain transfer. Manage Domain Ownership Protection."
So that’s the nightmare. I don’t know what the password is, nor do I know why it isn’t equal to the password I use to log in to the site / into the main control panel itself. I also tried an older password from years back, no luck. I have used ‘strong’ passwords with the main site which are not used elsewhere. There’s no username in this prompt, just some password.
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I would open a support ticket with 123 reg
You can prove you have access into the account and you can prove who you are
123 reg should then help you regain access back
Many thanks
John
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I have indeed done so. Just hope they are not awkward.
Another domain now - a .uk :
Could someone tell me if I can see what the current value of an IPS TAG is ?
I was trying to transfer a .uk domain from 123-reg to "AAISP", and when I set the tag value, I then got an error. I assumed it was because I had already done this same operation, had set it to AAISP already. I would like to check though that I have not got mixed up and have transferred that domain name to DYNADOT by setting this tag, as I am also transferring some 123-reg domains to Dynadot too, because of cost savings, so I would like to be able to see the value of the IPS TAG as a sanity check.
Can another registrar see the value of the tag? AA sales said to me basically ‘you haven’t done it yet; haven’t changed it’ but it could just be a case of confusion over timing.
Trying to organise and keep track of dozens of these operations is a total nightmare at the moment; because of problems with confusion and memory. Perhaps I should get a friend to do all of them. But I would owe that friend many many pints. (When I worked at Psion PLC th currency for such debts was the unit called the ‘fruity bun’ which was originally literally just that but soon became an abstract concept realisable in all sorts of forms for the resolution of debts either incurred due to heinous bugs or foolishness, or debts that arose as a result of outstanding services or favours rendered. So it would be many fruity buns required for such a painful chore.
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@weaver - I might suggest you keep all domains with a single provider if you are losing track of things
Be patient as these transfers will run under a cron set by providers
It is easy to see TAGS, just google Whois and you’ll see pages and pages. It’s no secret for TAGS
As I said, be patient and allow an hour or two for cron jobs
Please also be aware, your nameservers may change depending upon which nameservers you use. If you used say 123 reg nameservers, and you transfer domain out, 123reg may remove you from nameservers and your domain may not have correct dns
Many thanks
John
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> might suggest you keep all domains with a single provider
Sound advice - I would like to do that using Dynadot as the primary registrar and AA for the critical domains; the reason for splitting it into two is that using AA you can’t go wrong because they can optionally completely handle renewals for you with no possibility of failure due to credit cards screwing up but they are a bit expensive whereas Dynadot is cheap is cheap and seems decent to me.
Thank you John.
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dynadot have an option of keeping existing nameservers configured, and this has always happened for me when I migrated domains to them.
But of course its a good idea to check this is the case after the migration.
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@ chrysalis
Sorry this was meant if weaver were using 123reg nameservers and transferred away, 123reg would then delete the account and no dns as nameservers point to a null platform
As you state, most new providers keep existent nameservers but above cause fail
Many thanks
John
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yes in that situation if he is using them to host the nameservers, those records would need setting up again on the new provider. Is he doing that?
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I can of course now see the IPS tag value in the WHOIS output now you’ve reminded me that it’s on display right there!
123-reg still giving me an error when I try to change the tag on one .uk name. I’m chasing support about it but they haven’t come back to me yet.
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Is it my imagination or has 123-reg put up domain renewal prices a lot in recent years
I was just charged over £14 for renewal of a .uk domain. I’m thinking of moving to dynadot. Do I waste a load of money if I don’t wait until the end of the annual period
I also have my .org.uk domain coming up for renewal shortly and 123-reg want almost £29 for two years which as weaver says seems a large increase compared to what they used to charge.
All I use it for is to forward emails so that amazon@ or bills@ goes to my ‘actual’ email address so am wondering if one of the other firms mentioned on this thread - ionos, Dynadot etc provide this in their service when you renew a domain name?
Also, it’s just been pointed out to me that I may have left it to late to transfer my domain name and avoid paying 123-reg.. so knowing if I would waste a lot of money if I didn’t wait until just before the next renewal period would be good to know.
I only have the one domain and have never transferred it so it’s not a topic I know about.
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£29 for 2 years is very high, sadly these costs can get bloated when a registrar gets too big for its boots and its branched into other areas.
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I remember the days when you could get a .uk for £5 and a .com for less than £10, approx.
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More hassle from 123-reg. I tried to get an auth code for transferring a domain away and the option to do so on their website now just keeps coming up with an error. A bit suspicious. I’ll have to phone their support number as there doesn’t seem to be an email contact address or an electronic live chat option. Very annoying; there’s some mention of software upgrades to their support ticketing system so there could be a genuine reason for this nuisance, here’s hoping so.
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@weaver - there will be nothing untoward with 123reg and they certainly would not intentionally stop a domain transfer
All your domains would not be a deal breaker to them been moved away
Many thanks
John
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it’s just that their website seems broken - they give out an error message when you try to get an EPP code out of them, and there doesn’t seem to be any obvious way of getting in touch via email or live chat or useful web support interface. there’s only a telephone number so i suppose i’ll have to try that tomorrow.
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And thanks john, for your reassurance. I’ve used 123-reg for years and years but their prices have now just become silly, no?
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it’s just that their website seems broken - they give out an error message when you try to get an EPP code out of them, and there doesn’t seem to be any obvious way of getting in touch via email or live chat or useful web support interface. there’s only a telephone number so i suppose i’ll have to try that tomorrow.
Have you checked if the domain is locked? I believe you normally have to unlock it first before you can request a transfer.
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I have unlocked it but it just comes up with this bizarre error message. I’ve decided to leave it for a few days to see if they fix it.
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Yeah I wasn't sure how it worked as I moved mine away several years ago for the same reason you are, I just remembered about having to unlock it first.
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Had similar issues with godaddy, loop after loop to jump through to move domains away. Mysterious technical errors etc.