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Announcements => News Articles => Topic started by: Bowdon on January 28, 2020, 04:51:38 PM
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I can understand the caution about Huawei because of its country of origin.
Mixed vendors have always been a commercial decision, at least with Openreach. I'm not sure about the other companies.
I do find some of the language by some of the news media abit hysterical. I think it comes from a lack of understanding of the 5G technology, and how much Huawei is embedded already in both 4G and FTTC.
I think Boris has probably made the best choice he could. Now its up to the Americans if they are going to accept it.
After a protracted period of uncertainty the UK Government has today confirmed that kit from Chinese technology giant Huawei and other “high risk vendors” will be banned from the “sensitive” core of future UK 5G and “gigabit-capable” fixed broadband ISP networks, although non-core 5G kit (antennas, street cabinets etc.) will be exempt.
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/01/huawei-you-go-uk-green-lights-firm-for-non-core-telecoms-kit.html (https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/01/huawei-you-go-uk-green-lights-firm-for-non-core-telecoms-kit.html)
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/8653-huawei-kit-decision-arrivied-at-for-uk-5g-network-operators (https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/8653-huawei-kit-decision-arrivied-at-for-uk-5g-network-operators)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51283059 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51283059)
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If I understood correctly, there were even suggestions that all existing Huwaei equipment would need removing. :o
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They're not having my phone :P
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Its such a deep lack of understanding of networking, if they think Huawei has been calling home and nobody would notice this rogue traffic on the core network.
Ironically equipment most likely to be able to get away with that, are the ones they are allowing.
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And a lot of traffic will be encrypted.
One thing they said on the news last night is China could theoretically hit an off switch and shut down large chunks of our network, this I suppose is feasible.
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And a lot of traffic will be encrypted.
One thing they said on the news last night is China could theoretically hit an off switch and shut down large chunks of our network, this I suppose is feasible.
I think that could possibly be true of any vendor.
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This is presumably why there is movements towards more open software managed platforms with a mix of vendors. So if one vendor tries anything, the management layer will just failover to the other vendors kit. It might cause contention/routing issues, but it wont completely take out the network.
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I think that could possibly be true of any vendor.
Indeed, American Vendors could do the same.
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Indeed, American Vendors could do the same.
That aspect becomes a question of ‘who do you trust’
Places I have lived, once I get to know the neighbours, I’m likely to give one or two of them a door key, for use in emergencies. They could misuse it, that’s a risk.
But it doesn’t follow that I should stand outside the local magistrates court, handing my door keys to every petty criminal on their way through the door.
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I can only express my utter indifference at the whole affair.
Via a MacBook Pro assembled in China, connecting via the hotel's WiFi - a Huawei router going to a Huawei DSLAM connecting to a Huawei OLT.
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That aspect becomes a question of ‘who do you trust’
Places I have lived, once I get to know the neighbours, I’m likely to give one or two of them a door key, for use in emergencies. They could misuse it, that’s a risk.
But it doesn’t follow that I should stand outside the local magistrates court, handing my door keys to every petty criminal on their way through the door.
One no more than the other, America is currently the most aggressive country in the world in its military activities and can be quite indifferent if you don't abide to their political desires.
There has been no proof of significance against Huawei, simply America's word that they are bad.
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One no more than the other, America is currently the most aggressive country in the world in its military activities and can be quite indifferent if you don't abide to their political desires.
There has been no proof of significance against Huawei, simply America's word that they are bad.
It seems to me its the US assuming everybody else is doing what THEY are trying to do.
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That aspect becomes a question of ‘who do you trust’
Places I have lived, once I get to know the neighbours, I’m likely to give one or two of them a door key, for use in emergencies. They could misuse it, that’s a risk.
But it doesn’t follow that I should stand outside the local magistrates court, handing my door keys to every petty criminal on their way through the door.
Honestly? You should trust nobody.
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Honestly? You should trust nobody.
He didn't say he trusted his neighbours, but was willing to take the risk.
We leave a key with a neighbour when away, and members of our extended family (brothers/mum) also have keys.
Only problem we've had is when neighbours didn't have access or contact numbers and the house was broken into whilst we were away, hence why we now leave a key with one and also give them contact numbers.
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Good article
https://telecoms.com/502085/uk-made-the-correct-call-on-huawei-but-the-devil-is-in-the-detail/
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Honestly? You should trust nobody.
Unfortunately that would involve living as a hermit in a cave on a desert island.
I personally, somewhat reluctantly, put a little bit of trust in some of the big tech companies, like Google and Apple. I keep them at arms length as much as possible, but they do publish their privacy policies and by and large, they abide by them. And these policies are enforced by a legal system that, again, I largely trust. So after reading the privacy policy, I make a judgement call.
If however a Chinese company were to offer similar services to Apple or Google, I’d see no point even looking at their privacy policy, as it is not something that I’d feel could be trusted to the slightest extent.
Good article
https://telecoms.com/502085/uk-made-the-correct-call-on-huawei-but-the-devil-is-in-the-detail/
Agreed, worth a read, well balanced. :)
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Huawei is a big tech company as a reminder.