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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: adslmax on December 12, 2019, 07:45:08 PM
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Engineer came this morning to install new line for G.fast. At the moment using Openreach modem with green isp for the first ten days of training period then will take it off and try Zyxel router with the correct settings (this router still active with Plusnet FTTC 80/20). Engineer say line max for g.fast is 240/50. :)
Watch this space for more updated :)
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The 10 day training period is a myth.
Stick your telephone number in here - http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/ and see if there is a max observed value for g.fast yet. Expect to get about 10-15mb less in terms of sync than the max value for downstream, but upstream is pretty spot on in my experience.
For example, my max observed is 269.72 and I am synced at 258.22 according to the Zen portal (my only method of getting this info) which gives a maximum download speed of 249943Kbps
Also, mouselike mis-reports your expected upload speed - you won't be uploading at 50mb. It also thinks mine is 50mb, but most i've ever synced at is 38
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Here is my dsl checker been updated by BTwholesale and I have swapped over to Zytel router
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xDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: G.fast Annex A
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 1 days: 2 hours: 10 minutes
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xDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 49.751 Mbps 249.658 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 49.040 Mbps 249.117 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 3.1 dB 3.0 dB
Actual Delay: 0 ms 0 ms
Transmit Power: 2.0 dBm 0.0 dBm
Receive Power: 5.7 dBm 2.0 dBm
Actual INP: 535.0 symbols 552.0 symbols
Attainable Net Data Rate: 62.029 Mbps 278.658 Mbps
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I'm confused, one minute you've renewed with Plusnet, next minute you've ordered Virgin Media and now you're on g.FAST with some ISP we've never heard of before?
My plusnet FTTC still free (back to billing errors issues again so I keep that as it free at the moment as the renewal contract has been written off)
I didn't order it as I was thinking it over but decided go for G.fast instead.
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If this is real, then those aren't bad results considering your original estimates. It even beats the prediction I made for downstream a while back when I said I reckon it would be 200 Mbps (+/- 20 Mbps, I think). And hey, the upstream is solid it seems.
Those figures should not change too much when/if there are more subscribers since the connection is vectored. There may be small fluctuations, but it is looking good.
Edit: I think my predications came before the Band Plan changes.
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Upload are pretty very quick with google drive :)
Why is BTw checker still showing amber on G.fast for address but show available for my phone number?
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My g.fast was solid for a month now with green isp
1. Downstream Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
219.72 Mbps
0 Mbps 226.06 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 219.72 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 195 Mbps-226.06 Mbps .
Additional Information:
IP Profile for your line is - 226.06 Mbps
2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.
Upload Speed
48.14 Mbps
0 Mbps 50 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed
Upload speed achieved during the test was - 48.14Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 50 Mbps
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:thumbs:
Not everything is bad in G.fast land. Though I am personally thinking about downgrading to 160/30 at the end of my 12 month term.
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My g.fast was solid for a month now with green isp
1. Downstream Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
219.72 Mbps
0 Mbps 226.06 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed
Glad to hear that all is going well for you :)
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:thumbs:
Not everything is bad in G.fast land. Though I am personally thinking about downgrading to 160/30 at the end of my 12 month term.
Yes, that's what I am thinking as well. But they can downgraded me but BTw will charged fee for that and will change to 160/30 with a new 12 months contract will apply too.
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Glad to hear that all is going well for you :)
Thanks but I don't need that speed - will downgraded to 160/30 soon and stay with it and would save lots cheaper than higher product 330/50 ;D
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I have contract green isp to downgrade to 160/30 but they say no. Must wait until my 12 months contract has expired then can downgraded to 160/30 for my G.fast to save extra money. I think 217Meg down with 50Meg isn't worth the money but 160/30 will do. I do regret shouldn't have ordered 330/50 in the first place cos it won't let me downgrade to 160/30.
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bcm_xdslctl info --stats
bcm_xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 49989 Kbps, Downstream rate = 222114 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 49986 Kbps, Downstream rate = 222114 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: G.fast Annex A
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 3.0 3.0
Attn(dB): 26.7 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 0.0 2.0
Since Link time = 31 days 12 hours 15 min 52 sec
FEC: 7161614273 52118122
CRC: 191 19
ES: 77 33
SES: 21 10
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
FastRetr: 0
FailedRetr: 0
FailedFastRetr: 0
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My G.fast with green isp will be cancel next week cease on the line and g.fast. Don't need G.fast, will continue using my PN FTTC 80/20 for next five years.
All of u are right I don't need faster than 80/20. Been to my doctor as he giving me very strong prescription for sleep and depression will go back to my doctor two weeks time.
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My G.fast with green isp will be cancel next week cease on the line and g.fast.
... 12 months contract ....
How is this going to work out for you?
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Green isp has agree to written off 12 months after they accepted my gp letter states of mental illness breakdown
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Hopefully things will now start to improve for you. :)
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Ye gawds max. Like we didn't see that one coming. :no:
Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, but regardless of you health we did tell you that it was an expensive luxury that you didn't need. I really had hoped that we'd gotten through to you a few months ago, but you still went ahead and did it.
For all the same reasons I gave a few months ago you really must stop this merry-go-round of ISPs. It does not help your mental health if it is also going to affect your wallet too. I was wondering how you were going to manage financially.
I'm speaking frank because we do care and because someone has to. We are not being unkind, because we all can see that it is not in your best interests to go chasing speeds you don't need, especially when you are lucky enough to have one of the best FTTC connections in the UK.
I do hope that things improve - please do go find a way to use the 80Mbps connection that you have. I'm sure there must be games out there that you could at least get into which may perhaps take your mind of broadband speeds and stats for a while. :)
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I know from experience that with mental health problems, its easy to focus on chasing material things when you have so little control over the rest of your life.
For me I chased my PC specifications, which fortunately you do hit a barrier at some point where you can't really go any higher.
When it comes to broadband I even went off the deep end a bit myself, getting a Three unlimited SIM and then finding it wanting so got the second VDSL line. In my case, I DO use the bandwidth so its not like I completely wasted my money, perhaps more importantly, I can afford it.
But I can understand how in a different situation, its easy to get further and further down that rabbit hole, obsessing over things. You see people do it all the time over collecting things, frustratingly thanks to capitalism there are whole markets specifically targeted to exploiting people in that situation.
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ETA
Just seen that Carl has posted something similar here (https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24351.msg409668.html#msg409668).
Apols to Carl for the duplication, but to Max.. it just shows how concerned we are getting about your fixation on your connection.
Max I genuinely can't understand why you need more speed especially when funds are limited. There will always be someone who has bigger, better, faster connection than you. Most of us here are already jealous of your speeds and some others would literally kill to get a line as good as yours.
But what else is concerning me is I've also just seen the Pulse8 thread. I really hope that you are not considering going with Pulse8, the timing of their news and the wanting to cancel Green ISP is unnerving me, especially when you are back checking the checker again for speeds.
It's not fair to the ISPs when you keep ordering new connections and then change your mind a few days later. More so when it comes to one-man band ISP's working out of a shed with I bet little profit. That guy probably works all hours for little reward. He will likely now be out of pocket with Openreach and got nothing for all the work he has done. It's unreasonable behaviour when it impacts others too. :'(
I'm sorry that you have health issues, but I am glad to hear the you have been prescribed medication. I hope that this helps you, it may take a little while for you to feel the benefits of the medication so stick with it for a while... and if you have probs with them go back to your GP as there are alternatives that could be tried.
Good luck and GWS.
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Kitz - pulse8 say Openreach has rejected G.fast 330/50 beecause there is capacity issues on the TalkTalk Business as I can see FasterFibre 150 check at my property they still rejected.
Anyway, I have put the cease order on the line set to be completed next week for G.fast and line to stopped. Also I have asking PN to downgraded my FTTC to 40/10 and then forget about check speed test, line stats, G.fast, FTTC 80/20 and TalkTalk Business G.fast and Virgin Media.
I just wasnt to forget it all for now and get myself better in my mental state health. I have to stop dreaming in a fantasy land of Cuckoo Oak. If FTTP has arrived, I shall not touch this!
Why am I doing this? Cos I was boredom, I like to look at the stats (worse time of my life is checking line stats every five minutes for the whole of 7 days!) I have to STOP NOW.
I was even pop down to car dealerships everywhere in Telford , deal, no deal, deal, no deal, order the car, cancel the car order. My GP are very worried about my health issues and want me to get checked out at the hospital and he refer me appointment and hope someome will sort me out. Cos I was badly very lonely on my own (lost my partner who has died too young ages mother to my daughter) and lost my favourite grandma piled the depression mood on me.
I do talking to myself in four walls (talk about Cuckoo Land Dream in a fantasy world of broadband, talk about a dream car too) wish I could meet a new woman to start me a new life for the better for me.
Maybe I am better off to be with god in heaven above us and stuff the broadband & car dream.
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Kitz - pulse8 say Openreach has rejected G.fast 330/50 beecause there is capacity issues on the TalkTalk Business as I can see FasterFibre 150 check at my property they still rejected.
This is perhaps a good thing that it rejected.
Also I have asking PN to downgraded my FTTC to 40/10
I would have left that, I thought you were getting it free or something because of a mixup in billing ?
I just wasnt to forget it all for now and get myself better in my mental state health. I have to stop dreaming in a fantasy land of Cuckoo Oak.
That's good to hear that you are getting professional help.
In addition are there any groups in your area that your doctors surgery can recommend? There are usually support groups in most areas where you may perhaps meet up with people in a similar position to you. There will hopefully be something that may interest you and will at least get you out of the house and take your mind off things for a few hours. Meeting new people and hopefully making new friends may make a heck of a difference to your sense of well-being. Just ask the receptionist if they keep a list - if not the local library should have a lists of all the local groups.
Wishing you the best.
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I would have left that, I thought you were getting it free or something because of a mixup in billing ?
No, the billing has resolved now and expecting first payment next month!
Thanks for wishing me the best. That's what my GP suggest me to meet up peoples in the support group.
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Cuckoo Oak (presumably that's in Telford) a bit far from me (Wales) but if I was close enough I think I want to take you out for a pint and put the world to rights dude. Take it easy. If you want a talk or anything just shoot me a PM. I'm no counsellor - just being a friendly stranger on the internet.
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Why am I doing this? Cos I was boredom, I like to look at the stats (worse time of my life is checking line stats every five minutes for the whole of 7 days!) I have to STOP NOW.
You have the entire Internet at your disposal.
Maybe learn something new?
https://www.coursera.org/
https://www.skillshare.com/